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Live Poker Forum - Online Poker Forums & Hand Analysis Poker Forum 2006-11-13T20:11:44-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/feed.php?f=5&t=19671&mode 2006-11-13T20:11:44-06:00 2006-11-13T20:11:44-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=19671&p=179763#p179763 <![CDATA[who pays this off?]]>
Obviously it was one of "those" hands where it isn't a question of whether you win or lose (your definitely going to a lose), but a question of how much and by which way do you get there.

I think you'll find that you'll lose typically less (and no more than the same amount) and you'll find out more information about your opponent and his hand by testing him on that flop. And that way you can avoid absolutely hating life when you let him check-min-raise you with Q-J or 8-7 and then he leads weak on the turn and you just call. That's how you let a donk make a straight and take most of your stack.

How would you play this hand after just smooth-calling his min-raise on the flop and the turn comes a King, Jack, 8, or 6? What if you smooth-call the brick on the turn and the river comes a King, Jack, 8, or 6?

I'm basically just wondering how you commited you feel after smooth-calling a min-raise on that flop - are you going to call value bets down to the river no matter what the turn and river comes? Is there any "scare" card for you? Are you commited to paying off whatever value bets he deems suitable, or is their an amount besides "all-in" that would push you off the hand?

Statistics: Posted by Devbert — Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:11 pm


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2006-11-13T16:14:55-06:00 2006-11-13T16:14:55-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=19671&p=179670#p179670 <![CDATA[who pays this off?]]> Statistics: Posted by KJo — Mon Nov 13, 2006 4:14 pm


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2006-11-10T20:39:15-06:00 2006-11-10T20:39:15-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=19671&p=178831#p178831 <![CDATA[who pays this off?]]> Statistics: Posted by Rhound50 — Fri Nov 10, 2006 8:39 pm


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2006-11-10T19:28:48-06:00 2006-11-10T19:28:48-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=19671&p=178812#p178812 <![CDATA[who pays this off?]]> Statistics: Posted by Devbert — Fri Nov 10, 2006 7:28 pm


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2006-11-10T16:13:51-06:00 2006-11-10T16:13:51-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=19671&p=178728#p178728 <![CDATA[who pays this off?]]> Statistics: Posted by KJo — Fri Nov 10, 2006 4:13 pm


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2006-11-09T19:27:44-06:00 2006-11-09T19:27:44-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=19671&p=178366#p178366 <![CDATA[who pays this off?]]> Statistics: Posted by Devbert — Thu Nov 09, 2006 7:27 pm


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2006-11-09T17:26:19-06:00 2006-11-09T17:26:19-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=19671&p=178317#p178317 <![CDATA[who pays this off?]]> Statistics: Posted by KJo — Thu Nov 09, 2006 5:26 pm


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2006-11-08T23:08:56-06:00 2006-11-08T23:08:56-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=19671&p=177967#p177967 <![CDATA[who pays this off?]]> Statistics: Posted by black_knight6 — Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:08 pm


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2006-11-08T21:22:14-06:00 2006-11-08T21:22:14-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=19671&p=177940#p177940 <![CDATA[who pays this off?]]> Statistics: Posted by Rhound50 — Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:22 pm


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2006-11-08T21:12:37-06:00 2006-11-08T21:12:37-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=19671&p=177936#p177936 <![CDATA[who pays this off?]]> Statistics: Posted by Devbert — Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:12 pm


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2006-11-08T20:36:00-06:00 2006-11-08T20:36:00-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=19671&p=177919#p177919 <![CDATA[who pays this off?]]> Statistics: Posted by iceman5 — Wed Nov 08, 2006 8:36 pm


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2006-11-08T19:25:00-06:00 2006-11-08T19:25:00-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=19671&p=177900#p177900 <![CDATA[who pays this off?]]> Statistics: Posted by Devbert — Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:25 pm


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2006-11-08T04:03:18-06:00 2006-11-08T04:03:18-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=19671&p=177605#p177605 <![CDATA[who pays this off?]]>
Every donkey and their mother tries it to "play back" at you from OOP: I usually call the minraise from a donkey even if I 'm just c-betting with nothing (unless it's a tight player, cause they often have something). If they got something decent they will keep on betting at least semi strong, but most of the time they check or make a weak bet and I'll bet/raise and they fold.

Statistics: Posted by Yliherra — Wed Nov 08, 2006 4:03 am


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2006-11-08T03:39:10-06:00 2006-11-08T03:39:10-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=19671&p=177602#p177602 <![CDATA[who pays this off?]]>
I agree that in this hand you lost a small amount, but it was because villain played it weak. I agree with the argument that you want to define your opponent's hand on the flop better.

Statistics: Posted by poker2006 — Wed Nov 08, 2006 3:39 am


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2006-11-07T23:46:35-06:00 2006-11-07T23:46:35-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=19671&p=177560#p177560 <![CDATA[who pays this off?]]> Statistics: Posted by Devbert — Tue Nov 07, 2006 11:46 pm


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