You can see also in the hand where he went the felt postflop with QQ against me that starting this day, he's been opening up a lot against me and I've had the better of him. Up to this night, i wasn't even up a buy-in on him. Don't know why he's been doing shit like this.
Statistics: Posted by DonkiFornication — Mon Dec 04, 2006 10:23 pm
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Basic idea, with such a hand IMO we dont want a showdown, so one needs to bet or to fold. I don't like these turn and river calls.
Statistics: Posted by Zmej — Sat Dec 02, 2006 5:20 am
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I'd probably call here. He sounds like the type of player who would check with a PP or maybe even an 8 here rather than valuebet and hope to get a call out of A-high or 77. His hand looks like 57/79/TJ type of a hand, or a Q/6. You say he over-valuebets his really big hands so that sort of eliminates a 6 from his range, leaving a Q maybe 30% of the time, an 8 10% of the time, something else that beats you probably 10-20% of the time and you win 40-50% of the time I think.
Statistics: Posted by GodlikeRoy — Sat Dec 02, 2006 1:09 am
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how about a raise? if he'll fold weak queens then you should raise it up. on the one hand your line will look very bluffy. on the other hand he doesn't sound like the kind of player who will think about that.
one thing i disagree with...you talk about getting value from him bluffing the turn. i dont really think there's much value to get here. if you had AK it would be different. but he can be bluffing here with better hands than yours.
jon
Statistics: Posted by ua1176 — Sat Dec 02, 2006 1:01 am
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I don't PT HU games, Weak-TAG in that he over-valuebets really big hands. I push him around a bit, so I have to mix things up. Was he fine with taking it down as is or did he want a call? Just 'cause he's a TAG doesn't mean that he's incapable of bluffing OOP, but when he does it, he's careful to not lose too much. These look the same as his weakTP's. Am I priced in? It doesn't look like much, but this is such a common situation and I've had a lot of different resposes on other forums.
Prima Poker skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $3/$6
2 players
Stack sizes:
Double Gutted: $1870.45
BB: $1134
Pre-flop: (2 players) Double Gutted is Button with
![[Ah]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Ah.gif "The Ace of Hearts")
![[9d]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/9d.gif "The Nine of Diamonds")
Double Gutted raises to $18, BB calls $12 (pot was $36).
Flop:
![[6s]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/6s.gif "The Six of Spades")
![[Qd]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Qd.gif "The Queen of Diamonds")
![[8c]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/8c.gif "The Eight of Clubs")
($36, 2 players)BB checks, Double Gutted checks.
This was a great flop for him to check-raise me off what's most probably the best hand and I figured my only value would come him bluffing at the pot on the turn. I've also been CB'ing a lot in this session.
Turn:
![[6h]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/6h.gif "The Six of Hearts")
($36, 2 players)BB bets $20, Double Gutted calls $20 (pot was $76).
I was gonna raise a lot of cards here to end the hand, but again this was a great card for him raise me with almost any 2 cards or call with a big hand and take me to Valuetown on the river with a monster. Again, I thought my best value would come from him betting the river with the worst hand. Before just calling this turn, I said to myself that the MOST I'd call to any non-painted river was $40. Bad thinking?
River:
![[4h]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/4h.gif "The Four of Hearts")
($76, 2 players)BB bets $40, Double Gutted ____________ ???
Dammit! He had to bet exactly $40? Go with it or lay it down?
Statistics: Posted by DonkiFornication — Sat Dec 02, 2006 12:55 am
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