1a and 1b are probably worth an AI.
2. If you are playing LAG style you have to follow up. This can get expensive but here it means RR or CR turn (probably not AI). A lot depends on your read of BB and what you have been doing at the table. I think if you have been getting played back at a lot at a table and you have been folding to it you have to wait for a hand you feel you can play deep or leave and find a different table. LAG style hates to SD a lot. The trick is to convince your opponent you want to SD this particular hand. That gets expensive. It's also why they say you win small pots with AA but lose big ones. If you have a big hand you want to build a pot so if you are going to bluff you have to rep a big hand.
3. I fold that river. I might have RR turn but even a call would have me looking for a cheap SD if river didn't give me trips.
4. Yes.
5a. If you are going to push this I think you need to lean towards going AI on the turn. You have represented strength since the flop but there are now (as you know) many draws so If you had 2p or trips wouldn't you want to charge those draws? Best scenario you have 18 outs (overpair, FD, OESD), still a dog to TT (3:2) but if he plays TT for his stack against that board 'nihan'.
5b. Ideally I'd be AI on the flop but that is a huge overbet. Still it punishes his little $4 blocking bet and you have plenty of outs. You are 53/47 favorite vs AA and only a 57/43 dog vs top set. The turn check followed by the second little blocking bet is what gets me. If this guy wants to play ask him about his stack. If you believe the A is a 'good card' for you then go AI on the turn. If not check behind. This guy has shown no strength. Sooner or later you need to invite him to play. If he calls you you have outs. You were willing to bluff it off on the river with nothing so bluff it off on the turn when there is much more tension for him.
There's an alternative strategy here and that is to just tighten up and play your cards. The problem with TAG style, at least in theory, is since you hit quality cards much less often and they hit the flop even less times you have to be very aggressive when your opportunities arise. As always, the problem of 'timing' (luck) is always present.
I remember a limit hand I had a while back. I had KK and flopped quads on a rainbow board. My one opponent decided he was going to take the pot from me. He capped every street to the river. I think I probably would have laid down AA to him there. He showed A4. It's easy to just pass on the play as 'donk' but there was certainly method to his madness. His timing just stunk. His choosing to do it in a limit game was probably not optimal either. The big bet feature of NLHE makes the method a better option more often. Lousy timing will still stink though.
If I were at a table and continuously losing to hands like the ones you post because my image was so shattered that my bets no longer carried any weight I'd probably look for a different table. This means the only hands I win at that table are those I showdown and lots of showdowns aren't a good thing for any winning NLHE player so I'm probably in the wrong game.Statistics: Posted by Calaziar — Mon Dec 04, 2006 12:21 am
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