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Live Poker Forum - Online Poker Forums & Hand Analysis Poker Forum 2006-12-08T01:22:04-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/feed.php?f=5&t=20657&mode 2006-12-08T01:22:04-06:00 2006-12-08T01:22:04-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=20657&p=189099#p189099 <![CDATA[AA, OOP, against a regular. 400NL, 5max]]> Statistics: Posted by GodlikeRoy — Fri Dec 08, 2006 1:22 am

]]> 2006-12-08T01:17:25-06:00 2006-12-08T01:17:25-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=20657&p=189098#p189098 <![CDATA[AA, OOP, against a regular. 400NL, 5max]]> Statistics: Posted by DonkiFornication — Fri Dec 08, 2006 1:17 am

]]> 2006-12-08T01:11:04-06:00 2006-12-08T01:11:04-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=20657&p=189095#p189095 <![CDATA[AA, OOP, against a regular. 400NL, 5max]]> Statistics: Posted by GodlikeRoy — Fri Dec 08, 2006 1:11 am

]]> 2006-12-08T01:07:31-06:00 2006-12-08T01:07:31-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=20657&p=189094#p189094 <![CDATA[AA, OOP, against a regular. 400NL, 5max]]> Statistics: Posted by DonkiFornication — Fri Dec 08, 2006 1:07 am

]]> 2006-12-08T00:57:31-06:00 2006-12-08T00:57:31-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=20657&p=189090#p189090 <![CDATA[AA, OOP, against a regular. 400NL, 5max]]>
This call is -EV.

Statistics: Posted by GodlikeRoy — Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:57 am

]]> 2006-12-08T01:02:40-06:00 2006-12-08T00:52:55-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=20657&p=189088#p189088 <![CDATA[AA, OOP, against a regular. 400NL, 5max]]>
We beat: AK (6), AJ (6) and JT (12). TT would have to retard to bet.
We lose to: KK (3), QQ (1), JJ (3), AQ (4), KQ (6), QJ (6). I'm ruling out AT and T9.

I'd bet $80 on the flop and shut down. That turn's gotta scare him as much as you and he's betting AK on the turn, but I wouldn't take weight off of it.I'd dwindle that with the weakness of JT and QJ's PF value by 75% just because he's solid and made that 5x raise after 2 limpers.

6 + 6 + (12*.25)= 15
3 + 1 + 3 + 4 + 6 + (6*.25)= 18

This call is +EV by 2:1, so you should make it. I'd make a crying call in the moment just for the 2.5:1 price. Even if the range is solely KK-JJ/AK, this is a +EV call by better than 2:1

Statistics: Posted by DonkiFornication — Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:52 am

]]> 2006-12-08T00:24:55-06:00 2006-12-08T00:24:55-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=20657&p=189082#p189082 <![CDATA[AA, OOP, against a regular. 400NL, 5max]]>
I really think this is a check/fold, or shove on the river. When you check, what worse hand bets? There really aren't any hands I can think of. Therefore when he bets, you has you beat almost always. Sure there's a small % chance that he called preflop and the flop with total air, but what's more likely is he has some piece of the board or a PP and will be more than happy to check it down.

So by checking you get no value out of hands you beat, but you give no value to hands that beat you. Perhaps check/folding is the best line, but I really doubt check/calling is.

When you shove the river, you're giving him the opportunity to make a big mistake. He can and will call you with a pretty wide range after you checked the turn. AJ will call a lot, any king is almost always called (AK, KT, KJ) and maybe TT or a lower PP if your opponents are giving you no respect at all, and by the way Zmej described that he's playing, it sounds like his opponents are just begging for a reason to call him down light and snap off a bluff. Give them one. Of course he's never folding a hand that beats you, so this bet is purely for value. Is it there? I think so. I mean, if you're going to CHECK-CALL, shoving is a million times better.

The more and more I think about it, the more I think check-call is really bad here. Either check-fold or shove. Does this make sense?

Edit: K I just went up and read Zmej's post about "I think he'll fold AK to a shove here" which I think is really wrong but if that's the case, check-folding is the only play. I personally think a solid regular will have taken note to your over-aggro style of play and be willing to call you down with marginal holdings.

Statistics: Posted by GodlikeRoy — Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:24 am

]]> 2006-12-07T21:23:17-06:00 2006-12-07T21:23:17-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=20657&p=188995#p188995 <![CDATA[AA, OOP, against a regular. 400NL, 5max]]> Statistics: Posted by shamdonk — Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:23 pm

]]> 2006-12-08T00:41:15-06:00 2006-12-07T21:21:25-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=20657&p=188993#p188993 <![CDATA[AA, OOP, against a regular. 400NL, 5max]]> Statistics: Posted by DonkiFornication — Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:21 pm

]]> 2006-12-07T14:39:06-06:00 2006-12-07T14:39:06-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=20657&p=188871#p188871 <![CDATA[AA, OOP, against a regular. 400NL, 5max]]> Statistics: Posted by black_knight6 — Thu Dec 07, 2006 2:39 pm

]]> 2006-12-07T14:25:17-06:00 2006-12-07T14:25:17-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=20657&p=188862#p188862 <![CDATA[AA, OOP, against a regular. 400NL, 5max]]>
This is a fold.

Statistics: Posted by hard2tel — Thu Dec 07, 2006 2:25 pm

]]> 2006-12-07T14:21:56-06:00 2006-12-07T14:21:56-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=20657&p=188860#p188860 <![CDATA[AA, OOP, against a regular. 400NL, 5max]]>
Anyway I called and he had KQo. That I didn't expect at all.
Probably Xaston knows how to deal with it, but it seems that reactions of opponents alter a lot when they see all this raises-reraises, etc. I mean if I played my normal TAG game no way he calls prreflop with KQo, I guess he would even muck AQo here.

Statistics: Posted by Zmej — Thu Dec 07, 2006 2:21 pm

]]> 2006-12-07T11:41:49-06:00 2006-12-07T11:41:49-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=20657&p=188818#p188818 <![CDATA[AA, OOP, against a regular. 400NL, 5max]]> Statistics: Posted by GodlikeRoy — Thu Dec 07, 2006 11:41 am

]]> 2006-12-07T11:37:21-06:00 2006-12-07T11:37:21-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=20657&p=188816#p188816 <![CDATA[AA, OOP, against a regular. 400NL, 5max]]> Statistics: Posted by black_knight6 — Thu Dec 07, 2006 11:37 am

]]> 2006-12-07T11:29:32-06:00 2006-12-07T11:29:32-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=20657&p=188814#p188814 <![CDATA[AA, OOP, against a regular. 400NL, 5max]]> Statistics: Posted by GodlikeRoy — Thu Dec 07, 2006 11:29 am

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