Bad fold in the first hand, call turn and try to catch a boat.
Statistics: Posted by Zmej — Sun Mar 11, 2007 5:02 pm
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This guy is 77/23/2.3. He's just lost a huge $400 pot with QQ v AA pre-flop. The next hand was his SB, folded to him and he went all in for $110! This is the next hand after that:
Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Stack sizes:
UTG: $164
UTG+1: $98.50
DODGYKEN: $108.85
Button: $111.57
SB: $413
BB: $107.35
Pre-flop: (6 players) DODGYKEN is CO with
![[Jc]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Jc.gif "The Jack of Clubs")
![[Jd]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Jd.gif "The Jack of Diamonds")
2 folds, DODGYKEN raises to $3.5, Button calls, SB calls, BB folds.
Flop:
![[9d]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/9d.gif "The Nine of Diamonds")
![[3c]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/3c.gif "The Three of Clubs")
![[8c]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/8c.gif "The Eight of Clubs")
($11.5, 3 players)SB checks, DODGYKEN bets $11, Button calls, SB calls.
Turn:
![[7d]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/7d.gif "The Seven of Diamonds")
($44.5, 3 players)SB checks, DODGYKEN checks, Button is all-in $97.07, SB folds
How do you play this? Do you bet the turn with the SB in there too?
Statistics: Posted by DODGYKEN — Sun Mar 11, 2007 9:07 am
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Anyway, he was 2 seats to my right and I was wondering how people would approach the table with this guy on it. It seemed wrong to me to continue playing my usual game - I didn't see any value in raising with some of the hands I would usually raise with - especially as they may be re-raised by this guy. I tried to play hands that could hit big - like pairs, big suited cards - and I tried as much as possible to stick to having position on him. This did mean I was playing a lot tighter than normal, although I imagine this is necessary on this type of table. Some of the other player were [of courser] calling him down with some crap. I can see why, but surely going into check-call mode against this guy is mostly bad because he is capable of such big bets / bluffs that it makes it hard to call even with top pair good kicker.
Here a few hands I played against him. If you could give me your opinions on how I played them and if you would do anything different I'd really appreciate it.
Hand 1: This hand was fairly early on the table and, although I realised he was a little crazy, I didn't quite realise how crazy he was. If this hand had come up later I maybe would have played it differently, but I'm not 100% sure how. Possibly bet out on the turn. Or maybe call the turn bet looking to fill up (I think the implied odds are HUGE v this guy). If I did call, would you call a bet on the river?
Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
5 players
Stack sizes:
UTG: $119.83
DODGYKEN: $100
Button: $206.25
SB: $97
BB: $105.30
Pre-flop: (5 players) DODGYKEN is CO with
![[Kd]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Kd.gif "The King of Diamonds")
![[Kc]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Kc.gif "The King of Clubs")
UTG folds, DODGYKEN raises to $3.5, Button calls, 2 folds.
Flop:
![[Kh]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Kh.gif "The King of Hearts")
![[Th]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Th.gif "The Ten of Hearts")
![[2h]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/2h.gif "The Two of Hearts")
($8.5, 2 players)DODGYKEN bets $6, Button calls.
Turn:
![[Ah]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Ah.gif "The Ace of Hearts")
($20.5, 2 players)DODGYKEN checks, Button bets $14, DODGYKEN folds.
Uncalled bets: $14 returned to Button.
Results:
Final pot: $20.5
Hand 2: This is the hand where I managed to stack him - pretty standard but i wanted to include it as I think it has relevance later on.
Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Stack sizes:
UTG: $93.10
UTG+1: $388.38
CO: $110.60
Button: $198.30
SB: $114.34
DODGYKEN: $99
Pre-flop: (6 players) DODGYKEN is BB with
![[Ad]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Ad.gif "The Ace of Diamonds")
![[Ac]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Ac.gif "The Ace of Clubs")
UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to $4, CO folds, Button calls, SB calls, DODGYKEN raises to $20, UTG+1 calls, Button folds, SB calls.
Flop:
![[Td]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Td.gif "The Ten of Diamonds")
($64, 3 players)SB checks, DODGYKEN is all-in $79, UTG+1 calls, SB folds.
Turn:
![[4s]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/4s.gif "The Four of Spades")
($222, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $222)River:
![[6d]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/6d.gif "The Six of Diamonds")
($222, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $222)Results:
Final pot: $222
DODGYKEN shows Ad Ac
UTG+1 shows 7h Kc
Hand 3: This hand I DEFINITELY played wrong. I'd been limping with pairs because he was raising most of the time and I wanted to see the flop cheaply to hit my set. I check-raised all-in here because of the hand above. He called me with K7 there - no pair, no draw - so I thought he might think an overbet from me was a bluff. I also thought he would call regardless if he had an Ace. In hindsight, I should have given him more rope to hang himself and made a smaller (though still sizeable) raise, allowing me to push the turn I think. How do you play this one? Would you then go and check-raise the turn?
Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
5 players
Stack sizes:
DODGYKEN: $211.50
CO: $368.73
Button: $233.25
SB: $204.20
BB: $96
Pre-flop: (5 players) DODGYKEN is UTG with
![[8s]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/8s.gif "The Eight of Spades")
![[8d]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/8d.gif "The Eight of Diamonds")
DODGYKEN calls, CO raises to $6, 3 folds, DODGYKEN calls.
Flop:
![[2c]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/2c.gif "The Two of Clubs")
![[As]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/As.gif "The Ace of Spades")
![[8h]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/8h.gif "The Eight of Hearts")
($13.5, 2 players)DODGYKEN checks, CO bets $9, DODGYKEN raises all-in $205.5, CO folds.
Uncalled bets: $196.5 returned to DODGYKEN.
Results:
Final pot: $31.5
Hand 4: Last one! In this one I didn't want to re-raise pre-flop as the pre-flop raiser was 27/7/2.5. I thought that he probably had AA-TT or AK/Q. I wanted to keep the pot small and see what happened post-flop. When the flop came T high, I was pretty sure the maniac would bet, so I checked to him and then I could see what the other guy did in the middle of use. When he called I thought I could have the best hand, or he could be slowplaying TT or AA/KK. I decided to call and see what the action was like on the turn. The turn looked good for me again. I checked again to see what action happened. When the raiser called again I felt I was beat. I thought he probably had AA-QQ or maybe TT. What do you think of my play here on each street please. And how is my thinking behind it?
Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Stack sizes:
UTG: $290.23
UTG+1: $99
CO: $204.35
Button: $153.29
DODGYKEN: $99
BB: $46.45
Pre-flop: (6 players) DODGYKEN is SB with
![[Js]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Js.gif "The Jack of Spades")
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, CO raises to $5, Button folds, DODGYKEN calls, BB folds, UTG calls.
Flop:
![[2s]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/2s.gif "The Two of Spades")
![[6s]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/6s.gif "The Six of Spades")
($16, 3 players)DODGYKEN checks, UTG bets $9, CO calls, DODGYKEN calls.
Turn:
($43, 3 players)DODGYKEN checks, UTG bets $32, CO calls, DODGYKEN folds.
River:
($107, 2 players)UTG bets $105, CO calls.
Results:
Final pot: $317
Sorry for such a long post but I find it tricky playing against guys like this. I'm sure other players must do too! I would really appreciate advice here because I feel that these situations should be very profitable and I know I could play them much better.
Martin
Statistics: Posted by DODGYKEN — Sun Mar 11, 2007 5:36 am
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