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Live Poker Forum - Online Poker Forums & Hand Analysis Poker Forum 2007-04-27T19:27:45-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/feed.php?f=5&t=24354&mode 2007-04-27T19:27:45-06:00 2007-04-27T19:27:45-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=24354&p=230673#p230673 <![CDATA[Beginner's Lesson - When NOT to push a big draw ($50 NL FR)]]> Statistics: Posted by Devbert — Fri Apr 27, 2007 7:27 pm


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2007-04-27T16:08:53-06:00 2007-04-27T16:08:53-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=24354&p=230635#p230635 <![CDATA[Beginner's Lesson - When NOT to push a big draw ($50 NL FR)]]> Statistics: Posted by Rhound50 — Fri Apr 27, 2007 4:08 pm


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2007-04-27T14:15:55-06:00 2007-04-27T14:15:55-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=24354&p=230610#p230610 <![CDATA[Beginner's Lesson - When NOT to push a big draw ($50 NL FR)]]> Statistics: Posted by Triple B — Fri Apr 27, 2007 2:15 pm


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2007-04-27T13:11:18-06:00 2007-04-27T13:11:18-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=24354&p=230605#p230605 <![CDATA[Beginner's Lesson - When NOT to push a big draw ($50 NL FR)]]> Statistics: Posted by SinkRox — Fri Apr 27, 2007 1:11 pm


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2007-04-27T12:11:49-06:00 2007-04-27T12:11:49-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=24354&p=230592#p230592 <![CDATA[Beginner's Lesson - When NOT to push a big draw ($50 NL FR)]]> Statistics: Posted by Rhound50 — Fri Apr 27, 2007 12:11 pm


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2007-04-27T11:27:27-06:00 2007-04-27T11:27:27-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=24354&p=230583#p230583 <![CDATA[Beginner's Lesson - When NOT to push a big draw ($50 NL FR)]]> Statistics: Posted by Cactus Jack — Fri Apr 27, 2007 11:27 am


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2007-04-27T08:13:45-06:00 2007-04-27T08:13:45-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=24354&p=230545#p230545 <![CDATA[Beginner's Lesson - When NOT to push a big draw ($50 NL FR)]]> Statistics: Posted by T-Rod — Fri Apr 27, 2007 8:13 am


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2007-04-26T21:18:36-06:00 2007-04-26T21:18:36-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=24354&p=230440#p230440 <![CDATA[Beginner's Lesson - When NOT to push a big draw ($50 NL FR)]]>
However, II've clearly got a lot to learn about it.

Bodog $50 NL FR.

I get [8h][4h] and see a free flop in the BB. Flop is 5 ways (SB folds).

Pot $2.75. Flop is [Ts][7h][6h]. I have a double belly buster and a flush draw - 15 outs against overpairs or two pairs or whatever. Life is good, right?

I lead $2.50. Folds to MP ($45 stack, I cover) who raises to $9. Short stack ($20) cold calls the $9. I think for a while -- though not nearly carefully enough -- and can't find anything better than to push. I'm figuring there's dead money in the pot and I've got to have a ton of outs against whatever they have. MP instacalls, short stack thinks for a while and calls, and only then do I figure out what I'm probably up against.

Yep, MP turns over 98o, and short stack turns over a better flush draw. I am drawing to 3 outs to a split. :oops: :oops: I don't even have my out to the straight flush because the shorty has [Jh][5h]. (Don't ask me what he's doing playing that hand in the first place.)

So here's the lesson .... Be really careful that most of your outs are likely to be live. In this case, there's no reason to think MP would have an overpair. A made straight was very likely. The only other options were a set (where I'm a dog) and two pair (where I'm flipping -- if it's headsup). Also, the cold calling short stack is going to be a flush draw pretty often: short stacks stink and they love suited cards and chasing draws.

Anyway, I learned my lesson the hard way.... Tonight I'm the beginner I guess. ](*,)

Statistics: Posted by k3nt — Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:18 pm


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