I shoved, villain had KQo. I don't think he was slowplaying it as a monster but actually was afraid of me having a JJ-KK. He maximized value this time but he will miss out the times I check river behind with AK, AA.
Statistics: Posted by Cooper — Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:49 am
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Its hard to believe he checked all 3 streets to hero if he has him beat.
I dont think he limp / called a raise with AT. He didnt limp at all with KK, QQ or JJ. hes probably raising KQ and if not, i think hes raising somewhere or leading the flop.
He should either have KJ (also doubtful) or have a pair and draw type hand that isnt calling a river push. I doubt hes a calling any bet with a pair +draw hand.
Statistics: Posted by iceman5 — Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:22 pm
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No matter what he has its been played very strange.
Statistics: Posted by Semillon — Mon Aug 20, 2007 6:08 am
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I think check behind is better.
I'd say that most of his range are draws with which he is not calling anything. Other possibilities are slowplayed monsters: T9; KJ, KQ. He could have weirdly played AA, AK, but it canceled by weirdly played KK-JJ IMO.
Taking everything into account the most likely hands are draws (JT) and KJ.
Statistics: Posted by Zmej — Mon Aug 20, 2007 5:58 am
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it's pretty impossible for him to have a set/straight/top 2 with this action.
most likely hands: KT/QT/JT, tricky AA, maybe KJ (strange that he didn't raise it anywhere but i can kinda see his logic).
i would shove it in. he's rarely calling but you're almost never behind. and there's a pretty decent chance he folds KJ to a river shove, or ends up feeling compelled to call w/ his AA because he played it so weird.
alternately bet like $31 and snap-call a shove. hmm...i might enjoy this even more than shoving given your "spewy" read.
p.s. if i was hero villain would show up w/ 33.
Statistics: Posted by ua1176 — Mon Aug 20, 2007 1:30 am
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This is my first shot at 400 NL and my first orbit at the table.
Finansen99 is a decent regular but can be spewey at times, I have him on 17/14/3 (300 datamined hands)
I'm trying to squeeze in more value on the river because I find that I'm checking behind with the best hand too often, what is your line here ?
(This is the 1st time he plays with me so he has no stats on me.)
Effective stacks $400
Hero is dealt
![[Jc]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Jc.gif "The Jack of Clubs")
[Qd] on button.Finansen limps in MP, I raise to $20, finansen is only caller.
Flop:
![[Jd]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Jd.gif "The Jack of Diamonds")
![[Kh]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Kh.gif "The King of Hearts")
![[Qs]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Qs.gif "The Queen of Spades")
, pot $42Finansen checks, I bet $42, he snapcalls.
Turn:
![[3c]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/3c.gif "The Three of Clubs")
pot $126Finansen checks, I make it $82 and he snapcalls again.
River
![[4s]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/4s.gif "The Four of Spades")
, $290He checks to me, we have $250 behind, what do you put him on and what is your line:
1. Check behind
2. Bet $XX and call shove
3. Shove
Statistics: Posted by Cooper — Mon Aug 20, 2007 1:00 am
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