Hand 2. I think I would 4 bet this PF in a button vs blinds confrontation and easily get it all in on flop if he calls (or call shove pf). If I call pf I think flop is ok. Turn is bloody tough, I guess I would have to fold it.
Hand 3. I pretty much never donk into the pf raiser unless my intention is to 3 bet him and I don't want to do that here, my standard line is to c/c flop and reevaluate. Your line looks exactly like what it is (a PP trying to find out where he is on the hand) so fold.
After reading your comments in hand 3 I still think c/c flop is ok, an option would be to hope for a safe turn card, let him bet it and bomb him.
Statistics: Posted by Cooper — Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:55 am
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$3/$6 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at
Stacks:
UTG ($582.00)
CO ($1182.00)
Hero ($1158.40)
SB ($627.25)
BB ($715.10)
Pre-flop: ($9, 5 players) Hero is BTN
![[8d]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/8d.gif "The Eight of Diamonds")
[7d]UTG raises to $18, 1 fold, Hero calls $18, 2 folds
Flop:
![[Qd]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Qd.gif "The Queen of Diamonds")
[8s][5s] ($45, 2 players)UTG bets $30, Hero calls $30
Turn:
![[7s]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/7s.gif "The Seven of Spades")
($105, 2 players)UTG bets $72, Hero calls $72
Should I be raising here? I get a feeling that I only fold out hands that beat me here if i raise and yet this could be a blocking bet by Qx and a river spade could hurt me. So should hero flat call or raise to 202?
River:
![[Jd]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Jd.gif "The Jack of Diamonds")
($249, 2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets $165, UTG calls $165
How thin is this river bet? He is not a CS type of player
Hand2:
Villain is 303/33/27/3
$3/$6 No Limit Holdem
3 players
Converted at
Stacks:
Hero ($600.00)
SB ($659.50)
BB ($647.35)
Pre-flop: ($9, 3 players) Hero is BTN
![[Jh]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Jh.gif "The Jack of Hearts")
[Jc]Hero raises to $21, SB raises to $69, 1 fold, Hero calls $48
Flop:
![[2d]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/2d.gif "The Two of Diamonds")
[9s][4c] ($144, 2 players)SB bets $102, Hero calls $102
Turn:
![[9d]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/9d.gif "The Nine of Diamonds")
($348, 2 players)SB bets $488.5, Hero ?
I feel I'm donating money here by playing out the hand like this. If i decide to call PF I don't think i can play rest of the hand like this, especially against such opponent.
If his range is { 22+, AJs+, KQs, QJs, JTs, T9s, 98s, AQo+ } for 3 bets, which is quite likely, I am 66-33 vs this range. Lets assume he calls here w TT, there is 250$ of dead money on flop. We assume that he only calls with tt+ or sets if i decide to push flop. I'm
23.6-76.3 % dog vs that range. So I'm risking 430 to win 774: 774: 430 1.8:1.0
100/2.8--> i need 35% equity while I have 24% If we assume he CB's 100% of time w air
help? 4bet FTW? I guess calling flop would be fine if we know he will give up later since we are ahead of his range by a lot on flop and are getting decent odds
Hand 3:
Villain is 150/18/16/6.67
Bets turn 40%
So he is quite aggresive
$3/$6 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at
Stacks:
UTG ($600.00)
UTG+1 ($650.00)
CO ($1855.54)
BTN ($118.16)
Hero ($602.70)
BB ($600.00)
[CO posted $9]
Pre-flop: ($18, 6 players) Hero is SB
[9s]UTG raises to $30, 3 folds, Hero calls $27, 1 fold
Flop:
![[4h]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/4h.gif "The Four of Hearts")
[6c][4c] ($75, 2 players)Hero bets $50, UTG raises to $165, Hero? He bets turn 40% of time so he is very likely to follow up turn with a bet even if he is bluffing. He could be doing this with a weaker pocked or a draw but my PP is so low that a lot of XXc draws will be coin flipping with me. Is this a weak fold given that we have no special reads? The reason why i decided to bet flop was the fact that he will bet turn often and i will be folding a lot of the best hands. So C/C kinda sucks if i expect to get pushed off the hand later? or should I be actually doing the opposite? calling both flop and turn no matter what? (There are a lot of turn scare cards for me + the fact that I could already be behind TT+)
Statistics: Posted by gsdavid — Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:37 am
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