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Live Poker Forum - Online Poker Forums & Hand Analysis Poker Forum 2007-12-20T23:31:13-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/feed.php?f=5&t=28768&mode 2007-12-20T23:31:13-06:00 2007-12-20T23:31:13-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=28768&p=286108#p286108 <![CDATA[JJ overpair in 4bet pot (1/2NL 6max)]]>
1: you call his OOP 4bet when he's NEW to the table. If you do this, you have to call ANY non A/K/Q flop no matter what hoping he has 99-TT or AK/AQ. Since you called pf, this is a snap call.

2: you FOLD pf to his OOP 4bet when he's NEW to the table (I like this one best!).

3: you shove pf.

Seriously, you're not getting set odds pf, so you either think you're ahead or behind...if you think you're behind, FOLD...if you think you're ahead, SHOVE! This hand shouldn't have gotten to the flop given that: 1) you know he has a rep for being solid, 2) he's NEW to the table, and therefore 3) has no reason to be pulling a move on you.

Statistics: Posted by black_knight6 — Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:31 pm


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2007-12-20T05:45:07-06:00 2007-12-20T05:45:07-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=28768&p=285951#p285951 <![CDATA[JJ overpair in 4bet pot (1/2NL 6max)]]> Statistics: Posted by Zuccala — Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:45 am


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2007-12-20T04:21:57-06:00 2007-12-20T04:21:57-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=28768&p=285947#p285947 <![CDATA[JJ overpair in 4bet pot (1/2NL 6max)]]> Statistics: Posted by tommyhawk — Thu Dec 20, 2007 4:21 am


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2007-12-19T14:59:05-06:00 2007-12-19T14:59:05-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=28768&p=285846#p285846 <![CDATA[Re: JJ overpair in 4bet pot (1/2NL 6max)]]> Statistics: Posted by Notorious_JC — Wed Dec 19, 2007 2:59 pm


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2007-12-19T09:07:58-06:00 2007-12-19T09:07:58-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=28768&p=285786#p285786 <![CDATA[JJ overpair in 4bet pot (1/2NL 6max)]]>
Another question.. decent TAGs will 3bet AQ, but will they 4bet it without shoving? I really don't know and am interested in your experiences..

Statistics: Posted by RedBarracuda — Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:07 am


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2007-12-19T04:09:31-06:00 2007-12-19T04:09:31-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=28768&p=285771#p285771 <![CDATA[JJ overpair in 4bet pot (1/2NL 6max)]]> Statistics: Posted by Schuster — Wed Dec 19, 2007 4:09 am


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2007-12-18T11:55:52-06:00 2007-12-18T11:55:52-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=28768&p=285647#p285647 <![CDATA[JJ overpair in 4bet pot (1/2NL 6max)]]>
JJ has 46% equity against AA/KK/AK, and 40% against AA/KK/QQ/JJ/AK, so it looks like a straightforward call.

He had 99 (?) and I held.

Next time I won't be calling a 4 bet with JJ, though - I think it has to be push or fold preflop.

Statistics: Posted by NorthView — Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:55 am


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2007-12-18T09:30:01-06:00 2007-12-18T09:30:01-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=28768&p=285619#p285619 <![CDATA[JJ overpair in 4bet pot (1/2NL 6max)]]> Statistics: Posted by Triple B — Tue Dec 18, 2007 9:30 am


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2007-12-18T08:51:59-06:00 2007-12-18T08:51:59-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=28768&p=285614#p285614 <![CDATA[JJ overpair in 4bet pot (1/2NL 6max)]]> Statistics: Posted by T-Rod — Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:51 am


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2007-12-17T15:54:17-06:00 2007-12-17T15:54:17-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=28768&p=285489#p285489 <![CDATA[JJ overpair in 4bet pot (1/2NL 6max)]]> Statistics: Posted by gsdavid — Mon Dec 17, 2007 3:54 pm


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2007-12-17T10:47:09-06:00 2007-12-17T10:47:09-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=28768&p=285415#p285415 <![CDATA[JJ overpair in 4bet pot (1/2NL 6max)]]>
Flop I would fold

Statistics: Posted by JohnSmith — Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:47 am


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2007-12-17T08:54:30-06:00 2007-12-17T08:54:30-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=28768&p=285398#p285398 <![CDATA[JJ overpair in 4bet pot (1/2NL 6max)]]>
We're assuming his 4 bet range OOP is fairly tight here, AK and prolly AA/KK. Do you think he'd shove AK on a bluff? I mean, his shove is an overbet but he could also assume your 3 bet range here is TT+ and AQ+ which is why he is shoving this flop, he may think you'll call with TT, JJ, QQ, and KK (if he has aces)

I'm not clever enough to give a bigger explanation but I'd def fold.

Statistics: Posted by JimmyJet — Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:54 am


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2007-12-17T08:21:42-06:00 2007-12-17T08:21:42-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=28768&p=285392#p285392 <![CDATA[JJ overpair in 4bet pot (1/2NL 6max)]]>
BetFred Poker 1.00/2.00, hand converted by the at

saw flop | saw showdown

Button ($349.50)
SB ($187.00)
BB ($69.95)
UTG UTG ($202.00)
UTG+1 ($200.00)
CO Hero ($515.30)

Preflop: Hero is in the CO with JImage JImage
UTG raises to 8.00, 1 fold, Hero raises to 27.00, 3 folds, UTG raises to 50.00, Hero calls 31.00.

Flop (119.00) 5Image 6Image 8Image
UTG moves all-in for 144.00

It's $144 to us in a $260 pot. What are we doing? Comments on preflop welcome too.

Statistics: Posted by NorthView — Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:21 am


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