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Live Poker Forum - Online Poker Forums & Hand Analysis Poker Forum 2008-03-13T14:39:25-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/feed.php?f=5&t=30282&mode 2008-03-13T14:39:25-06:00 2008-03-13T14:39:25-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=30282&p=309232#p309232 <![CDATA[shifting gears HU]]>
One comment: If you raise to something like 50 in SB (blinds 10/20), you're risking 40 to gain 30. So, I think the reason for at least calling 30% of the time is that if you don't do that, raising 100% becomes profitable.

So, I don't think it actually has anything at all to do with hand ranges, just by basic pot odds. And of course, if you're calling 30%, you might as well choose the particular 30% that holds up best HU, and that's a pretty much known range--although I personally throw in low SCs here (both as raiser and as caller) even though 65s actually ISN"T in top 30%. I do feel like those are hands that are important for having some hands that potentially hit just about any board pretty hard.

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2008-03-13T12:19:43-06:00 2008-03-13T12:19:43-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=30282&p=309194#p309194 <![CDATA[shifting gears HU]]> Statistics: Posted by redhouse — Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:19 pm


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2008-03-13T12:21:00-06:00 2008-03-13T12:18:00-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=30282&p=309193#p309193 <![CDATA[shifting gears HU]]> Statistics: Posted by redhouse — Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:18 pm


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2008-03-13T11:26:25-06:00 2008-03-13T11:26:25-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=30282&p=309185#p309185 <![CDATA[shifting gears HU]]> Statistics: Posted by Aisthesis — Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:26 am


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2008-03-12T21:10:10-06:00 2008-03-12T21:10:10-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=30282&p=309047#p309047 <![CDATA[shifting gears HU]]> Statistics: Posted by chuckwhoolery — Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:10 pm


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2008-03-12T21:04:31-06:00 2008-03-12T21:04:31-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=30282&p=309045#p309045 <![CDATA[shifting gears HU]]> Statistics: Posted by GodlikeRoy — Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:04 pm


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2008-03-12T21:10:15-06:00 2008-03-12T20:20:20-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=30282&p=309031#p309031 <![CDATA[shifting gears HU]]> Statistics: Posted by GodlikeRoy — Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:20 pm


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2008-03-12T17:41:48-06:00 2008-03-12T17:41:48-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=30282&p=308983#p308983 <![CDATA[shifting gears HU]]> Statistics: Posted by Aisthesis — Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:41 pm


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2008-03-12T16:33:50-06:00 2008-03-12T16:33:50-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=30282&p=308964#p308964 <![CDATA[shifting gears HU]]> Statistics: Posted by chuckwhoolery — Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:33 pm


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2008-03-12T16:20:44-06:00 2008-03-12T16:20:44-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=30282&p=308958#p308958 <![CDATA[shifting gears HU]]> Statistics: Posted by Semillon — Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:20 pm


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2008-03-12T16:19:33-06:00 2008-03-12T16:19:33-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=30282&p=308957#p308957 <![CDATA[shifting gears HU]]> Statistics: Posted by redhouse — Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:19 pm


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2008-03-12T16:04:54-06:00 2008-03-12T16:04:54-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=30282&p=308948#p308948 <![CDATA[shifting gears HU]]> Statistics: Posted by Aisthesis — Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:04 pm


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2008-03-12T16:02:18-06:00 2008-03-12T16:02:18-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=30282&p=308947#p308947 <![CDATA[shifting gears HU]]> Statistics: Posted by black_knight6 — Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:02 pm


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2008-03-12T15:52:22-06:00 2008-03-12T15:52:22-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=30282&p=308942#p308942 <![CDATA[shifting gears HU]]>
First, a value-bet is always being ahead of 2/3 of villain's range in a given situation--i.e., you have top 1/3 given villain's range.

So, the question is: How often should you bluff? And there's also a game-theoretical optimum, which I think is around 1/6 of the time with pot-sized bets.

However, in a given situation you also have or should have some assessment of fold equity.

I'll give PF play as an example, but the same actually applies on all streets--except that a betting sequence also narrows down your opponent's hand range. PF with position, his hand is random.

Now, if you're in SB and the blinds are 10/20, a VB is raising top 1/3 of your hands according to HU ranking. And if you raise to 50 (as I do here), you're paying 40 for a chance to win 30.

So, villain needs to fold a bit more than half the time (for simplicity's sake, I think we can call it 2/3) to make a bluff break-even.

Hence, as long as villain is calling >1/3 of the time, you should never bluff. And if he's calling <1/3, you should ALWAYS raise.

My conclusion is that you should be switching between these strategies until you feel like villain has changed his. And the same applies on every street.

Probably most difficult to play against PF should be raising actually a bit tight for a stretch (more like top 20% or randomized so as to define your hand less), then, as soon as you've achieved the goal of getting <30% calls, raise everything.

Similarly postflop: If he'll fold more than 50% to a pot-sized flop bet, you should be betting every flop. If not, you should be VBing only. Or with raises: If he'll fold often (defined according to your cost vs. gain) to a raise, you should be raising everything. If not, only value raises.

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