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Live Poker Forum - Online Poker Forums & Hand Analysis Poker Forum 2004-12-08T21:21:49-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/feed.php?f=5&t=407&mode 2004-12-08T21:21:49-06:00 2004-12-08T21:21:49-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=407&p=1910#p1910 <![CDATA[NL Hand]]>
with the pot as big as it was....i'm not sure how much money you had left... but you should not be value betting this river. an all-in is your play. He can't justify folding a Q4 here...or even something like KK orQQ just because that ace hit the river. There is too much in this pot for him to fold...so trying to "extract" money isn't the proper play in my opinion. allin baby!

Statistics: Posted by kennyg — Wed Dec 08, 2004 9:21 pm


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2004-12-08T19:49:54-06:00 2004-12-08T19:49:54-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=407&p=1894#p1894 <![CDATA[NL Hand]]> Statistics: Posted by briachek — Wed Dec 08, 2004 7:49 pm


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2004-12-08T19:49:52-06:00 2004-12-08T19:49:52-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=407&p=1893#p1893 <![CDATA[NL Hand]]>
Of course you cant fold EVERY time because your opponents will catch on, but I promise you that if you keep a tally sheet beside your computer and you keep track of results of all your hands starting at the point you get raised, you'll be shock ed at how much you lose.

Example....You have KJ. The pot is $4 and you bet $4 into a flop of Jxx. You get called. The pot is $12. You bet $7 at the turn and get raised another $7. The pot is now $26.
So if you call this $7 and then call his inevitable $20 bet at the river and lose...you count that as -$27. If you win the hand you get to count the $26 that you wouldve folded plus the $7 and $20 bets you called so you are +$53. Make sense?

I have done this and I promise you that you will come out ahead folding all hands where the strength of your hand is not greatly disguised (2 pair from the blind or a set).

If you get raised when a flush card hits and you have the ut flush that doesnt count. Basically you only count hands where when the raise comes, you think...oh crap...am I ahead or not?

I was taught this by a VERY good NL player named Scott Francis. As a matter of fact, this point is too valuable to only be posted here. I think I'll make it a featured article.

Try it and report your results back after a while.

Statistics: Posted by iceman5 — Wed Dec 08, 2004 7:49 pm


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2004-12-08T18:57:16-06:00 2004-12-08T18:57:16-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=407&p=1883#p1883 <![CDATA[NL Hand]]> Statistics: Posted by Bob314 — Wed Dec 08, 2004 6:57 pm


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2004-12-08T17:21:07-06:00 2004-12-08T17:21:07-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=407&p=1877#p1877 <![CDATA[NL Hand]]> Statistics: Posted by briachek — Wed Dec 08, 2004 5:21 pm


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2004-12-08T17:14:49-06:00 2004-12-08T17:14:49-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=407&p=1875#p1875 <![CDATA[NL Hand]]> Statistics: Posted by Bob314 — Wed Dec 08, 2004 5:14 pm


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2004-12-08T16:58:20-06:00 2004-12-08T16:58:20-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=407&p=1872#p1872 <![CDATA[NL Hand]]>
Its all terrible and I'm a limit holdem player so people can't show how bad they really are than at a NL table when betting is structured.

Statistics: Posted by briachek — Wed Dec 08, 2004 4:58 pm


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2004-12-08T15:13:05-06:00 2004-12-08T15:13:05-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=407&p=1851#p1851 <![CDATA[NL Hand]]> Statistics: Posted by iceman5 — Wed Dec 08, 2004 3:13 pm


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2004-12-08T15:01:10-06:00 2004-12-08T15:01:10-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=407&p=1844#p1844 <![CDATA[NL Hand]]> Statistics: Posted by tetsuo — Wed Dec 08, 2004 3:01 pm


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2004-12-08T14:52:02-06:00 2004-12-08T14:52:02-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=407&p=1839#p1839 <![CDATA[NL Hand]]> Statistics: Posted by briachek — Wed Dec 08, 2004 2:52 pm


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2004-12-08T14:48:39-06:00 2004-12-08T14:48:39-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=407&p=1837#p1837 <![CDATA[NL Hand]]> Statistics: Posted by iceman5 — Wed Dec 08, 2004 2:48 pm


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2004-12-08T14:46:27-06:00 2004-12-08T14:46:27-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=407&p=1836#p1836 <![CDATA[NL Hand]]> Statistics: Posted by odogg — Wed Dec 08, 2004 2:46 pm


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