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Live Poker Forum - Online Poker Forums & Hand Analysis Poker Forum 2005-01-03T12:29:03-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/feed.php?f=5&t=671&mode 2005-01-03T12:29:03-06:00 2005-01-03T12:29:03-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=671&p=3855#p3855 <![CDATA[Have you ever, ever folded KK before the flop]]> Statistics: Posted by k3nt — Mon Jan 03, 2005 12:29 pm


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2005-01-03T12:27:32-06:00 2005-01-03T12:27:32-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=671&p=3853#p3853 <![CDATA[Have you ever, ever folded KK before the flop]]> this close to folding KK correctly the other day. I raised to about 5x the BB in late position and was re-raised to almost 50x the BB by the button. I knew knew knew the bastard had AA but couldn't lay it down because I thought just maybe he had AK. So it's all-in time, and of course he had AA. Another A came on the flop so even AK would have beaten me. Sigh.

Just a few bucks, of course, in the micro-limits games. But so annoying.

Next time I lay it down, though, for sure. My KKs always seem to get busted by Ax anyway.

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2004-12-30T13:31:03-06:00 2004-12-30T13:31:03-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=671&p=3603#p3603 <![CDATA[Have you ever, ever folded KK before the flop]]> Statistics: Posted by Rhound50 — Thu Dec 30, 2004 1:31 pm


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2004-12-29T15:48:42-06:00 2004-12-29T15:48:42-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=671&p=3535#p3535 <![CDATA[Have you ever, ever folded KK before the flop]]> Statistics: Posted by Bob314 — Wed Dec 29, 2004 3:48 pm


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2004-12-29T11:56:48-06:00 2004-12-29T11:56:48-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=671&p=3514#p3514 <![CDATA[ya]]> Statistics: Posted by darrenelias — Wed Dec 29, 2004 11:56 am


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2004-12-29T09:09:00-06:00 2004-12-29T09:09:00-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=671&p=3510#p3510 <![CDATA[Have you ever, ever folded KK before the flop]]> Statistics: Posted by Gnosis — Wed Dec 29, 2004 9:09 am


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2004-12-29T08:42:25-06:00 2004-12-29T08:42:25-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=671&p=3509#p3509 <![CDATA[Have you ever, ever folded KK before the flop]]> Statistics: Posted by Smokin'Al — Wed Dec 29, 2004 8:42 am


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2004-12-27T23:31:54-06:00 2004-12-27T23:31:54-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=671&p=3382#p3382 <![CDATA[Have you ever, ever folded KK before the flop]]> Statistics: Posted by Gnosis — Mon Dec 27, 2004 11:31 pm


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2004-12-27T21:38:59-06:00 2004-12-27T21:38:59-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=671&p=3379#p3379 <![CDATA[Have you ever, ever folded KK before the flop]]> Statistics: Posted by Mad Genius — Mon Dec 27, 2004 9:38 pm


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2004-12-27T20:07:16-06:00 2004-12-27T20:07:16-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=671&p=3371#p3371 <![CDATA[Have you ever, ever folded KK before the flop]]> Statistics: Posted by Bob314 — Mon Dec 27, 2004 8:07 pm


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2004-12-27T18:36:54-06:00 2004-12-27T18:36:54-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=671&p=3360#p3360 <![CDATA[Have you ever, ever folded KK before the flop]]> Statistics: Posted by Mad Genius — Mon Dec 27, 2004 6:36 pm


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2004-12-27T17:19:42-06:00 2004-12-27T17:19:42-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=671&p=3354#p3354 <![CDATA[Have you ever, ever folded KK before the flop]]> .

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2004-12-27T12:39:12-06:00 2004-12-27T12:39:12-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=671&p=3330#p3330 <![CDATA[Have you ever, ever folded KK before the flop]]> Statistics: Posted by briachek — Mon Dec 27, 2004 12:39 pm


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2004-12-27T11:02:23-06:00 2004-12-27T11:02:23-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=671&p=3322#p3322 <![CDATA[Have you ever, ever folded KK before the flop]]>
I'm reading "The Theory of Poker" (an xmas present), which I'm sure you've all read before, but let me remind you of a bit that seemed really important to me.

"To illustrate further the cost of giving away your hand, suppose you are playing heads-up razz with no ante, no forced bet, and all the time in the world. You have decided, therefore, to play super-super-tight, folding everything except A23 on your first three cards. With no ante it would seem you're a cinch to end up a winner, but the fact is a good player will slaughter you. He'll soon know you are only playing with A23, and he'll play his cards accordingly. He'll start off with slightly worse hands than yours ... but he'll wind up beating you on later plays since he'll know exactly what you have. He'll know when you pair up and when you don't, and he'll never make a mistake. On the other hand, ... you will make mistakes because you won't know what your opponent has." (p 65)

If you only re-raise PF with AA, then to anybody who's paying attention you're giving your hand away and losing money. In particular, if that guy has KK to your AA, you're losing a fabulous chance to take his whole stack. If you think anybody is paying attention (and with pokertracker out there you have to assume somebody is!), you have to mix it up at least occasionally.

Anyway, Gnosis, way to take advantage of your knowledge and save yourself some bucks!!! Way 8-) .

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2004-12-27T07:06:04-06:00 2004-12-27T07:06:04-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=671&p=3315#p3315 <![CDATA[Have you ever, ever folded KK before the flop]]>
The hand went like this - A loosy goosy player that raises with any two broadway - and chases it down to the river - opens for a standard raise in EP, no one else calls so I smooth call on the button. This rock makes a mammoth re-raise, the loose player goes all in, and I fold since I was only 4BB invested in the pot and I was certain the player in the blind had AA - sure enough that is what they had.

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