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Live Poker Forum - Online Poker Forums & Hand Analysis Poker Forum 2005-01-28T11:07:59-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/feed.php?f=7&t=781&mode 2005-01-28T11:07:59-06:00 2005-01-28T11:07:59-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=781&p=6891#p6891 <![CDATA[all in first hand]]>
Since tournaments and SNGs are about survival, it is in general better to not put yourself in a position to get knocked out than to put yourself in favorable positions multiple times where there's a small possibility of getting knocked out.

Preflop, you have AA. There is one allin player and four callers on the first hand. If you call as well, what are your chances of surviving against 5 "random" hands? What are the chances that all 5 others won't hit something better than your hand? Sure if you win the hand, you'll have enough chips to dominate the rest of the field, but by folding you saved yourself the effort AND made it so that you couldn't get knocked out in those first few spots (thereby increasing your chances of making the money.

Just a thought.
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Statistics: Posted by starstealer — Fri Jan 28, 2005 11:07 am


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2005-01-28T05:55:25-06:00 2005-01-28T05:55:25-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=781&p=6856#p6856 <![CDATA[all in first hand]]> Statistics: Posted by Cactus Jack — Fri Jan 28, 2005 5:55 am


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2005-01-25T15:08:29-06:00 2005-01-25T15:08:29-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=781&p=6517#p6517 <![CDATA[all in first hand]]> Statistics: Posted by WC — Tue Jan 25, 2005 3:08 pm


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2005-01-24T13:15:26-06:00 2005-01-24T13:15:26-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=781&p=6348#p6348 <![CDATA[all in first hand]]> Statistics: Posted by briachek — Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:15 pm


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2005-01-24T00:38:44-06:00 2005-01-24T00:38:44-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=781&p=6299#p6299 <![CDATA[all in first hand]]>
Anyway, 2nd place after my first all-in on first hand tourney ever.

Statistics: Posted by GlassJoe — Mon Jan 24, 2005 12:38 am


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2005-01-24T00:08:03-06:00 2005-01-24T00:08:03-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=781&p=6294#p6294 <![CDATA[all in first hand]]>
First, my response. No way I go all-in on hand one with TT. JJ, for some reason, maybe. QQ more likely...and probably do. KK and AA, every time in a $11 or $22 SnG.

I'm responding, though, because I'm currently in a tourney on Paradise ($22) where I just went all-in on hand one for the first time ever. I got AA in MP1, one caller before me. I raise up to 100 (starting with 1000 chips). Guy three to my left min raises. "Uh-oh. AA? KK? Wait, I've got AA. Woo hoo." Dealer calls the 190, I go all in, reraiser calls and dealer folds. He had AQc. I fully expected to get sucked out though, and he did have one club and one Queen on the flop. Nothing after that, though, and I doubled (plus about 200) on the first hand. Woo hoo.

Of course, we're just down to 7 and I've got 2130 chips (down about a hunny from that hand) and I'm only second stack to a guy with 3000 chips (who happened to suck out AA with 99...flush, no less, not even a set).

Anyway, hello. And I'll be seeing ya.

Statistics: Posted by GlassJoe — Mon Jan 24, 2005 12:08 am


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2005-01-22T03:26:08-06:00 2005-01-22T03:26:08-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=781&p=6050#p6050 <![CDATA[all in first hand]]>
There was one guy who never played a hand. I thought he had signed up and clicked Sit Out. (There are people who do this, because, believe it or not, they'll make third about as often as most people who actually are playing.)

With five people left, he suddenly came alive. He blew the doors off every player left. I have his name written down, as I don't want to face this guy again.

Statistics: Posted by Cactus Jack — Sat Jan 22, 2005 3:26 am


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2005-01-15T23:17:24-06:00 2005-01-15T23:17:24-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=781&p=5173#p5173 <![CDATA[all in first hand]]> QQ is big enough to gamble with early in a sitngo. your likely to have the best of it and first out is the best place to be other than third or better(dont mean to imply that you should that is incorrect).
matty

Statistics: Posted by cholo loco — Sat Jan 15, 2005 11:17 pm


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2005-01-10T08:53:57-06:00 2005-01-10T08:53:57-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=781&p=4517#p4517 <![CDATA[all in first hand]]> Statistics: Posted by Nashvegas — Mon Jan 10, 2005 8:53 am


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2005-01-07T06:40:09-06:00 2005-01-07T06:40:09-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=781&p=4262#p4262 <![CDATA[all in first hand]]> Statistics: Posted by Felonius_Monk — Fri Jan 07, 2005 6:40 am


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2005-01-05T10:23:46-06:00 2005-01-05T10:23:46-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=781&p=4088#p4088 <![CDATA[all in first hand]]> Statistics: Posted by TexasKowboy — Wed Jan 05, 2005 10:23 am


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2005-01-05T09:14:11-06:00 2005-01-05T09:14:11-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=781&p=4085#p4085 <![CDATA[all in first hand]]>
You are, of course, absolutely right about the fact that so many inferior hands get involved at these levels. However, that should be an incentive for you only to get involved with premium hands, preferably those that dominate an opponent, early doors, precisely because there is so much madness.

Look at it this way: because these players are so poor, you, as a more intelligent player, will wait for them to knock each other out and, more importantly, for those spots when you know you are ahead. If you wait, these situations will come up, and you will be in a far better position to capitalise on their weakness then, rather than leaving it in the lap of the gods by calling for all your chips early doors.

Statistics: Posted by Telemachus — Wed Jan 05, 2005 9:14 am


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2005-01-05T08:47:40-06:00 2005-01-05T08:47:40-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=781&p=4081#p4081 <![CDATA[All In First Hand]]>
The betting is now on you, the blinds and the UTG player will still need to act.

I fold, how about you?

Yes, I have the best hand, but up against multiple players, my advantage is affected and even if I win, there are 5 or 6 days left, and the chips I could win would surely assist me, but does not garantee me anything. You can't win until you make it to the final table.

On the other hand, if I lose, I am out 10k and done for the entire week! And another year..

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Now, a sit n go, the way you stated it, I'm all in with AA but not with TT!. It's $10 and another one starts in 2 minutes, and if I do win the hand, the chips I garner will allow me to (or should) to dominate the ONE table and remaining players. I just can't pull the trigger on all-in that early with a hand like TT, as I normally would be confident my play during the event can eventually wear down my opposition and put me into the money or win the event, without taking this early risk.

With TT, any overpair, any hand containing an Ace, King Queen or Jack that catches a card beats me. Not to mention any underpair that can still catch and beat me. Too many ways to lose (and I did not count flushes and straights). Of course, if later in the tournament, chip stacks various sizes, shorthanded pots, would dictate a different action from me, but early on, this one is mucked to an all-in.

IMHO

Statistics: Posted by Al Spath — Wed Jan 05, 2005 8:47 am


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Brett

Statistics: Posted by slaz13 — Tue Jan 04, 2005 5:58 pm


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