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Live Poker Forum - Online Poker Forums & Hand Analysis Poker Forum 2006-02-07T21:45:32-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/feed.php?f=8&t=10972&mode 2006-02-07T21:45:32-06:00 2006-02-07T21:45:32-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=10972&p=85080#p85080 <![CDATA[Jacks in the second hour]]>
Now if I have Jacks and raise 800 and get re-raised for my stack I get pissed off and throw the Jacks in the trash where they belong if I don't know the player or if I know the player to be tight. If I know him to be loose I will call because he could have anything from K10 which I am a big favorite, AK which I am in a coin flip or a higher pair which I say damn the bad luck. The Lag is the guy you want to trap with your big hands. He is the player that is going to give you the chips to make it to the final table.

I like getting agressive the second and third hour but why play hands so well the first hour and then throw your chips away the second.

The reason for the calling and not pushing is that players are real brave pre flop with any Ax. But when it misses the flop there A starts looking real small and LAG will wait for the next guy he can bully and win his chips back.

Remember every hand plays differently against every player. Go after LAG with your made hands and go after TAG with your nut hands or nut draws if you have the odds to do so.

It is all about odds. That's what it takes to make the final table. Not just pot odds but odds the player has a better hand. Now to win it is going to take some luck also.

I am giving JJ and QQ advice. 1010 and lower I will most of the time muck in EP in the second or third hour when it is going to cost me my average stack to play the hand.

Short stacked I'm all in with any 77 or better. Big stacked I am applying the pressure with the same hand. But average stacked I am waiting for Mr. LAG to double me up.

Statistics: Posted by TexasKowboy — Tue Feb 07, 2006 9:45 pm


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2006-02-07T02:48:02-06:00 2006-02-07T02:48:02-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=10972&p=84725#p84725 <![CDATA[Jacks in the second hour]]> scenario 1

i think you call. the catch is that you also need to call with strong aces and check to them on an A-high flop, too... and CR their stealing asses when they try to CB or value bet a weak A. if you constantly do CRs with flopped strong hands when OOP, some players will take notice and will ease off the CBs. i get lots of free cards this way.

scenario 2

i like the call and evaluate, too. the problem with the no overs rule is that often times tricky players will raise with low and middle PPs and/or SCs as (semi-)bluffs. the no high card flops often hit them hard with a str8, set, or 2pr. as such, i think this play actually requires a decent bit of knowledge of the raiser to play well. i've stacked a few overpairs with this play from EP. of course, most players either aren't tricky or are just stupid, but hopefully you have some reads.

scenario 3 - playing from EP

depending on the texture of the table, chip counts, and blinds, i will sometimes limp and sometimes raise enough to try to get it HU. remember, nobody really knows what you have when you raise from EP, but most people assume it's a relatively strong holding. you get to CB on any flop with high cards OR low cards (not every time, but often), and you'll often know where you stand based on the response. i think you can only do this if you're willing to drop it on a raise on the flop (cheers to him if he's bluffing... i get his stack if i hit my set) and your stack won't be crippled by the pfr and CB.

my failures with this tack (EP raise and CB) have been when: 1) I didn't raise enough to get it HU, 2) didn't raise enough to get people to lay down janky hands like K9, and 3) run into showdown monkeys who like second pair if it's with broadway cards (of course, they're usually still ahead of me, but still...). needless to say, i often get a lot of action when i do have hands.

Statistics: Posted by Kuso — Tue Feb 07, 2006 2:48 am


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2006-02-07T01:38:56-06:00 2006-02-07T01:38:56-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=10972&p=84715#p84715 <![CDATA[Jacks in the second hour]]> Statistics: Posted by Juskimo — Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:38 am


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2006-02-06T22:54:29-06:00 2006-02-06T22:54:29-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=10972&p=84675#p84675 <![CDATA[Jacks in the second hour]]> Statistics: Posted by TexasKowboy — Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:54 pm


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2006-02-06T19:56:42-06:00 2006-02-06T19:56:42-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=10972&p=84629#p84629 <![CDATA[Jacks in the second hour]]> Statistics: Posted by MTPaid — Mon Feb 06, 2006 7:56 pm


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2006-02-06T19:45:07-06:00 2006-02-06T19:45:07-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=10972&p=84627#p84627 <![CDATA[Jacks in the second hour]]> Statistics: Posted by Juskimo — Mon Feb 06, 2006 7:45 pm


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