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Live Poker Forum - Online Poker Forums & Hand Analysis Poker Forum 2005-07-26T15:01:02-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/feed.php?f=8&t=4739&mode 2005-07-26T15:01:02-06:00 2005-07-26T15:01:02-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=4739&p=34181#p34181 <![CDATA[TT Live MTT hand]]> Oviously, I have nothing to add here, other than to say it has been very good food for thought...
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Statistics: Posted by bobby — Tue Jul 26, 2005 3:01 pm

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Horshak, I don't agree with your analysis that I have so much more fold equity preflop. If he is a think opponent, he is getting a little better than 3:! on his money to call my all in preflop. The only hands really get less odds than that to call is if he has on underpair to my TT or 2 unders to it. If he has something like A9, KJ, ect, he is getting odds. Even if he doesn't know I have a pair and he thinks I have AK, even a hand like AJ that is dominated is has better than 3:1 to call my all in and then he'll get to see 5 cards. After the flop, he only has 2 cards to come so if he hasn't hit, his chances of winning has dropped significantly. True he is still getting the odds with 2 overs to my TT but he is not getting the odds with hands like A9 to my TT or AJ if he thinks I have AK or AQ. Therefore, even with perfect information, I do have some fold equity as the range of hands he could be on is more than just 2 overs to my TT.

Statistics: Posted by briachek — Sat Jul 23, 2005 8:47 am

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But first I would say that I would just have pushed preflop. You have 12BB’s / 5000 left and there is 1350 in the pot. Just winning the blinds and antes here is good, and if you are called that’s ok. You also avoid situations like this when you raise to 1200 and are reraised and don’t know exactly what to do. And if you only raise to 1200, are called and the flop contains one or two overcards it’s not the most fun spot to be in.

As you played it I like it. But only if you are sure that LP has two overcards. His raise could be a steal and if you think there is a chance that he has something like A7, Q3 or 85 I think you should raise all in.

If you think he has two overcards and he will call your all in (which I think he will) stop and go is the best play. I dont think it's close. Briachek has explained why.
But you are going to push any flop (perhaps except flops like AKQ and TT2)

How did you finish in the tourney?

Statistics: Posted by Kalle — Sat Jul 23, 2005 5:54 am

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Preflop, if you shove-in, and assuming his calling range to be fairly tight (AA-1010, AK-A10 suited or not, KQ-K10 suited or not, QJ-Q10 suited or not, J10 suited or not) your equity is 52%. Not all shabby considering his possible range of hands is much much wider and you will fold most of his Ace rag hands giving your 2750tc risk free not to mention the increase in your equity if he calls with pocket pairs down to 66 along with some suited aces.

I still think shoving preflop is the best option, tho it takes away the ability of a bad oppenent possibly laying down an even money(on a pot odds basis) hand on the flop (two overs). Pushing guarantees that you will not make an incorrect fold, it also gives you the chance to get ace rag to fold preflop, and perhaps some other hands. By pushing preflop, you still retain some fold equity. He will definately call with a hand he beats you with, however he may lay down some hands which are a coinflip. Also, remember that by holding 1010, you add a few points to your coinflip percentage by virtue of taking away some of his straight possiblities by denying him access to two 10s when he is holding overcards.

In my opion, I still like shoving in preflop. You need chips fast. You are in the blinds next and if you fold to overs on the flop you have approximately 2 trips left around the table. Odds are you will not get your money in with 525 or greater equity after this hand. Not to mention that if you do have to fold(say and ace flops), doublling up isn't as powerful as doubling up now.

Statistics: Posted by Horshak — Sat Jul 23, 2005 1:39 am

]]> 2005-07-22T11:48:16-06:00 2005-07-22T11:48:16-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=4739&p=33492#p33492 <![CDATA[TT Live MTT hand]]> Statistics: Posted by briachek — Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:48 am

]]> 2005-07-22T11:16:24-06:00 2005-07-22T11:16:24-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=4739&p=33483#p33483 <![CDATA[TT Live MTT hand]]> Statistics: Posted by Stoneburg — Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:16 am

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]]> 2005-07-20T19:09:11-06:00 2005-07-20T19:09:11-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=4739&p=33192#p33192 <![CDATA[TT Live MTT hand]]> Statistics: Posted by Stoneburg — Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:09 pm

]]> 2005-07-18T20:43:32-06:00 2005-07-18T20:43:32-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=4739&p=32681#p32681 <![CDATA[TT Live MTT hand]]> Statistics: Posted by briachek — Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:43 pm

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I push in (edit: pre-flop) just to piss him off. Plus I think you are ahead here

this guy was just trying to steal, now he is sort of mad he has to push in more money. He obviously doesn't have a premium hand, I push in and hope to tilt him and if you have to race you are most likely ahead.

I am not a big fan of going all in until you have too but this guy isn't paying enough attention to the action to notice a raise, obviously he is a muppet. I push in on him pre-flop

Statistics: Posted by Jarren — Mon Jul 18, 2005 11:41 am

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Calling is not a good play unless you plan on shoving any non ace flop. Calling and seeing a flop and watching an Ace or paint flop will make you throw up in your mouth being out of position. If you check, he will most likely put you all in and you now have a very tough decision. 1010 will not flop a set and see at least 1 overcard 62.9% of the time per Mike Caro's misery index.

Say you call and flop comes with one over or more and you fold to his bet. (assuming you dont shove any flop). Now you have 2600 in chips left with the blinds coming in 1 hand. One orbit costs you ~1200 chips. If you don't get a hand utg or in the bb you are quickly becoming severely short, to the point of being irrelevant.

I push his awkward reraise attempt everytime here. If it was an elaborate ruse to get action with his AA/KK so be it. If he had AA or KK you would get stacked on this flop anyways. You have to bet your overpair and any bet on the flop basically committs you since the stacks are short.

Granted folding is another option, but think you are ahead here more than you are behind.

All in two card poker stinks, but with the fast structure, you need to get chips now. I think worst case you are against two overs. More than likely you are against 1 over and are in great position to double up.

Statistics: Posted by Horshak — Mon Jul 18, 2005 11:36 am

]]> 2005-07-18T09:28:03-06:00 2005-07-18T09:28:03-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=4739&p=32461#p32461 <![CDATA[TT Live MTT hand]]> Statistics: Posted by briachek — Mon Jul 18, 2005 9:28 am

]]> 2005-07-18T07:44:30-06:00 2005-07-18T07:44:30-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=4739&p=32438#p32438 <![CDATA[TT Live MTT hand]]> Statistics: Posted by Horshak — Mon Jul 18, 2005 7:44 am

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