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Postby Lcplinfalt » Sun Jun 18, 2006 6:58 pm

I had been at the Table for 5 rounds and still had yet to see a flop out of the BB thus the questionable preflop play. UTG plays many hands and limps most of them. Rest of the table is very tight.Poker Stars
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Limit: $1/$2
10 players


Stack sizes:
UTG: $20
UTG+1: $119.25
UTG+2: $95.75
MP1: $120.50
Lcplinfalt: $35
MP3: $73.25
CO: $48
Button: $38.50
SB: $36
BB: $25

Pre-flop: (10 players) Lcplinfalt is MP2 with [Jh] [Ad]
UTG calls, 3 folds, Lcplinfalt raises, 5 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: [2h] [4s] [9c] (5.5SB, 2 players)
UTG checks, Lcplinfalt bets, UTG calls.

Turn: [4d] (3.75BB, 2 players)
UTG checks, Lcplinfalt checks.

River: [Jd] (3.75BB, 2 players)
UTG bets, Lcplinfalt calls.

Results:
Final pot: 5.75BB
UTG showed 9h Ah
Lcplinfalt showed Jh Ad
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Postby NWCougar » Sun Jun 18, 2006 8:17 pm

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Postby Danhdan » Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:47 am

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Postby MTPaid » Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:43 pm

UTG's thought process.......

Uh-oh, he raised while after I limped UTG. He probably thinks I have a strong hand to play UTG, but he still raised. He has an over-pair, but maybe I can flop 2 pair or a flush.

Flop. This could be trouble. I flopped top pair, but it's probably no good. I don't want to give it up, but I don't want to go crazy and lose a bunch of bets and feel like and idiot when he turns over pocket Queens. I'll check and call.

Turn. No help here, but WAIT! He checked. I over-estimated his hand. I'm ahead here. DAMN! I just lost a bet. I have to make up for it on the river.

River. That J seems like a harmless card. If he had JJ he would have bet the turn. Only thing he could have raised pre-flop with that hits this river is AJ, but even that's a questionable raising hand in MP after an UTG limp. I think I have him beat so I'll bet.

Does this work? If he's any good at all, he's not playing a 4 UTG. 99 and he probably would have bet the turn unless (may be going for the check-raise since you bet the flop, but doubtful). The Jack didn't help him unless he has the same hand as you because he would have raised pre-flop. To be fair though I probably expect him to bet our or check raise with A9 after the 9 on the flop so I'm not sure I put him on that hand either. 77,88, ATs, KQs, KJs, AJ (less likely) are what I'm thinking.
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Postby Danhdan » Mon Jun 19, 2006 4:07 pm

Also, depending on his aggressiveness, he might have been looking for a check-raise on the turn on that non-threatening board, although this scenario is less likely than MT's.
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Postby Lcplinfalt » Mon Jun 19, 2006 6:13 pm

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Postby MTPaid » Mon Jun 19, 2006 10:12 pm

What raise did you call?
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Postby Danhdan » Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:57 am

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Postby k3nt » Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:53 am

Agree. No teaching the fishies!!!!!
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Postby flafishy » Tue Jun 20, 2006 1:58 pm

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Postby Lcplinfalt » Tue Jun 20, 2006 6:35 pm

I agree 100%. No Teaching the fish. Reagardless of what we think they possibly could learn. Scary. Flafishy the only reason I am a little iffy on the preflop play is im not really all that good post flop yet. Ive got tons to learn about it stil. I did think that I played it ok though. I called the river for the exact reason you stated
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Postby flafishy » Wed Jun 21, 2006 2:12 am

Preflop in this hand, I wouldn't raise that if a couple of people limped ahead of me. I would go ahead and see a free flop and then bet out if it hits, probably check-call one bet if it misses low.

But since there was only one limper and you're already heads-up, go ahead and take charge with the raise for two reasons -- to see his reaction and to set up a steal on a missed flop. If he reraises the preflop, feel free to toss it. If he cold-calls the raise, as he did here, bet out on the flop, as you did, as there's a pretty good chance you'll take the pot. If he calls, go into checkdown mode, and if you need to muck to a bet on the turn, you've still gotten out pretty cheaply.

UTG screwed up this hand completely by not raising the flop, again by not betting the turn and yet again by betting the river.. You played it perfectly.
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