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Respecting strength on the turn

Postby stickdude » Fri Dec 22, 2006 3:56 am

Another thing I noticed while looking through some hands was how much of a showdown monkey I am even when someone shows aggression on the turn - if I've got TP, I'm showing down... I only looked a small sample of hands where this happened, but I couldn't find a single instance where I won a hand after calling down.

So, here's a hand from tonight where I've got top pair and someone shows aggression -

Poker Stars
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.50/$1
6 players


Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with [Kh] [Ah]
2 folds, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, Hero raises, CO calls, SB calls.

Flop: [3s] [Kd] [7s] (6SB, 3 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, CO folds, SB calls.

Turn: [5s] (5BB, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB raises, Hero ????

This was the very first hand of the session, so I had no idea what a complete maniac villian was (something like 69/44/4.3 over 90 hands - it was fun having position on him). As for this hand, is it worth 2 more BB to find out if TPTK is good?
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Postby stickdude » Fri Dec 22, 2006 4:00 am

And another one (villian was fairly new to the table). It's not top pair, but I also have difficulty folding KK when it's heads-up and there's an A on the flop.

Poker Stars
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.50/$1
6 players


Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with [Ks] [Kh]
Hero raises, UTG+1 calls, 3 folds, BB calls.

Flop: [As] [4c] [Tc] (6.5SB, 3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 calls, BB folds.

Turn: [9h] (4.25BB, 2 players)
Hero bets, UTG+1 raises, Hero ????
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Re: Respecting strength on the turn

Postby Pok 7's » Fri Dec 22, 2006 11:05 am

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Re: Respecting strength on the turn

Postby stickdude » Fri Dec 22, 2006 11:41 am

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Postby stickdude » Fri Dec 22, 2006 2:32 pm

I am getting better, though. If this had been HU, I probably would have called down just because of the size of the pot. But when the BB calls the turn bet (after calling the 3-bet pre-flop), I know that one of them has an Ace here. And as it turns out, they both did.

Poker Stars
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.50/$1
5 players


Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with [Kh] [Kc]
2 folds, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, BB calls, Hero caps, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: [9d] [Ah] [9s] (12SB, 3 players)
SB bets, BB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: [5c] (7.5BB, 3 players)
SB bets, BB calls, Hero folds.

River: [Jh] (9.5BB, 2 players)
SB bets, BB calls.

Results:
Final pot: 11.5BB
SB showed Js Ad
BB mucks As Td
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Postby stickdude » Fri Dec 22, 2006 5:01 pm

And the ever popular check/3-bet. Maybe he only had a worse Jack, but I'm not sticking around to find out...

Poker Stars
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.50/$1
6 players


Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with [Js] [Th]
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, Hero calls, SB calls, BB checks.

Flop: [8h] [Jd] [5c] (5SB, 5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero raises, 2 folds, UTG 3-bets, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls.

Turn: [8d] (6BB, 2 players)
UTG bets, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: 1BB returned to UTG.

Results:
Final pot: 6BB
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