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Postby MecosKing » Sat Mar 25, 2006 11:59 pm

Since when did top pairbecome squat in headsup limit holdem?!?!?!
NorthViewBTP: poor old ED
NorthViewBTP: from gun totin beer swiller
NorthViewBTP: to limp wristed defender of fagdom
NorthViewBTP: ALL THINGS TO ALL MEN
NorthViewBTP: IS THE SAME AS NO THINGS TO ANY MAN
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Jimmy BTP: obv fell asleep in his colostomy bag
Jimmy BTP: running shite everywhere
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Postby Xaston » Sun Mar 26, 2006 12:15 am

Boy, you got me confused with a man who repeats himself.
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Postby Kuso » Sun Mar 26, 2006 1:09 am

wwcrd?

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Postby Xaston » Sun Mar 26, 2006 1:56 am

Game #1374368160 - $10/$20 Texas Hold'em (1-on-1) - 2006/03/26-01:45:35.2 (CST)
Table "Marve" (real money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Seat 4: I'm going to Value Town! ($1,135.50 in chips)
Seat 7: Xaston ($1,956.50 in chips)
Xaston : Post Small Blind ($5)
I'm going to Value Town!: Post Big Blind ($10)
Dealing...
Dealt to Xaston [ 4s ]
Dealt to Xaston [ Kc ]
Xaston : Raise ($15)
I'm going to Value Town!: Raise ($20)
Xaston : Call ($10)
*** FLOP *** : [ 2s 9s 4d ]
I'm going to Value Town!: Bet ($10)
Xaston : Raise ($20)
I'm going to Value Town!: Call ($10)
*** TURN *** : [ 2s 9s 4d ] [ Ks ]
I'm going to Value Town!: Check
Xaston : Bet ($20)
I'm going to Value Town!: Raise ($40)
Xaston : Raise ($40)
I'm going to Value Town!: Raise ($40)
Xaston : Raise ($40)
I'm going to Value Town!: Call ($20)
*** RIVER *** : [ 2s 9s 4d Ks ] [ 8s ]
I'm going to Value Town!: Check
Xaston : Bet ($20)
I'm going to Value Town!: Call ($20)
*** SUMMARY ***
Pot: $339.50 | Rake: $0.50
Board: [ 2s 9s 4d Ks 8s ]
I'm going to Value Town! lost $170 (showed hand) [ Jc Jh ] (a pair of jacks)
Xaston bet $170, collected $339.50, net +$169.50 (showed hand) [ 4s Kc ] (a flush, king high)
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Postby Kuso » Sun Mar 26, 2006 2:07 am

nihan... at UB?
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Postby Xaston » Sun Mar 26, 2006 2:09 am

Dise
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Postby Kuso » Sun Mar 26, 2006 2:14 am

he was a fool to cap on the turn... either you were in his head or he was an idiot.
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Postby Xaston » Sun Mar 26, 2006 2:31 am

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Postby Kuso » Sun Mar 26, 2006 3:06 am

i like the turn CR as a move to have in the arsenal. it depends on the game texture, but he could easily induce a bluff and get an extra bet from a hand he beats (e.g., A9).

as for the various calls, i'm guessing you had his head spinning, so he may have thought there was a chance he was ahead. i imagine you play a lot of hands fast, so do you think he should put you on TP or better? if so, at what point?

alarms would start going off in my head when you rereraise the turn CR, but i would need a solid read to fold. too many people go nuts on scare cards with air, so...

knowing your reaction, what like would you suggest for villain?

flop bet-reraise-call (if you reraise)
turn bet-call
river check-fold
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Postby MecosKing » Sun Mar 26, 2006 3:34 am

Okay this hand is the ultimate in value town. Truth be told, it seems a little too thin to even be profitable. BUT-- the mizor it was against would call down just about anything, so ehh...

Anyways, here it is. Of course its not me in the hand cuz im not tite enough to make this river valuebet.

** Dealing Flop ** [ 8s, Qs, 2s ]
Asomnang checks.
wllstrt bets [$10].
keineahnung4 folds.
Asomnang calls [$10].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7s ]
>You have options at March GiveAway #1210446 Table!.
Asomnang checks.
wllstrt bets [$20].
Asomnang calls [$20].
** Dealing River ** [ 2c ]
Asomnang checks.
>You have options at March GiveAway #1210446 Table!.
wllstrt bets [$20].
Asomnang calls [$20].
wllstrt shows [ Td, Th ] two pairs, tens and twos.
Asomnang doesn't show [ Ad, 8d ] two pairs, eights and twos.
wllstrt wins $228 from the main pot with two pairs, tens and twos.
>You have options at March GiveAway #1210446 Table!.
NorthViewBTP: poor old ED
NorthViewBTP: from gun totin beer swiller
NorthViewBTP: to limp wristed defender of fagdom
NorthViewBTP: ALL THINGS TO ALL MEN
NorthViewBTP: IS THE SAME AS NO THINGS TO ANY MAN
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Mekos King: NV ignoring
Jimmy BTP: he's ignoring me too
Jimmy BTP: obv fell asleep in his colostomy bag
Jimmy BTP: running shite everywhere
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Postby MecosKing » Thu Mar 30, 2006 7:46 pm

All righty! I finally got to take a mizor to value town.

Dealt to Stuck4Lyfe [ Qh Qc ]
Master_Ko folds.
powbop raises [$20].
Stuck4Lyfe raises [$30].
ladeda14 folds.
Mello55 folds.
lucky_lew222 folds.
powbop calls [$10].
** Dealing Flop ** [7d] [7c] [5h]
powbop checks.
Stuck4Lyfe bets [$10].
powbop calls [$10].
** Dealing Turn ** [5c]
powbop checks.
Stuck4Lyfe bets [$20].
powbop calls [$20].
** Dealing River ** [Js]
powbop checks.
Stuck4Lyfe bets [$20].
powbop raises [$40].
Stuck4Lyfe raises [$40].
powbop calls [$20].
Stuck4Lyfe shows [Qh] [Qc] two pairs, queens and sevens.
powbop doesn't show [Jd] [Kh] two pairs, jacks and sevens.
Stuck4Lyfe wins $252 from the main pot with two pairs, queens and sevens.

I dunno, maybe im pattn myself on the back a little too much for this river three bet, cuz its probly not that thin. Anyways, serves the mizor right for callin me down with kinghigh. I wouldve bet my bottom dollar he had AJ there.
NorthViewBTP: poor old ED
NorthViewBTP: from gun totin beer swiller
NorthViewBTP: to limp wristed defender of fagdom
NorthViewBTP: ALL THINGS TO ALL MEN
NorthViewBTP: IS THE SAME AS NO THINGS TO ANY MAN
--------------------
Mekos King: NV ignoring
Jimmy BTP: he's ignoring me too
Jimmy BTP: obv fell asleep in his colostomy bag
Jimmy BTP: running shite everywhere
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Postby Danhdan » Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:17 pm

Ok, I have one. Live hand 2/6 spread limit.

Preflop: UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP calls, MP+1 calls, MP+2 calls, Hero in CO( [4s] [2h] ) calls, button folds, SB raises 4 to $6, BB calls, everyone calls. Nine handed.

Flop is [Qc] [Jd] [4h] . Checks all around.

Turn is [6d] . Checks again to Hero who bets $6. SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP calls, 2 folds.

River is [7c] . Checks around to Hero who bets. SB folds, BB folds, UTG folds, UTG+2 calls, MP folds.

Showdown:
UTG+2 has [Ac] [8d] , Ace high.
Hero has [4s] [2h] , a pair of 4's.

Hero wins 17 big bets.

Is that value town?
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Postby MecosKing » Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:03 pm

Uhm... Thats like VALUE CITY, if the hand really went down the way you say it did.... The best part of that is the 24o limp...you sir, are a mizors mizor. (thats a compliment by the way)

NorthViewBTP: poor old ED
NorthViewBTP: from gun totin beer swiller
NorthViewBTP: to limp wristed defender of fagdom
NorthViewBTP: ALL THINGS TO ALL MEN
NorthViewBTP: IS THE SAME AS NO THINGS TO ANY MAN
--------------------
Mekos King: NV ignoring
Jimmy BTP: he's ignoring me too
Jimmy BTP: obv fell asleep in his colostomy bag
Jimmy BTP: running shite everywhere
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Postby Danhdan » Fri Mar 31, 2006 5:00 am

I actually have a witness, my buddy who was MP+2...I got him to fold 86 on the turn. :twisted:
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Postby MVPSPORTS » Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:51 pm

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