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.25/.50P Hand comments please on bet sizes

Postby concussed » Sun Sep 30, 2007 5:43 am

No reads as such
I have [Qc] [Th] I raise 1.50,and the Pot is 6.00 with 3 live hands
Flop comes [Tc] [Td] [8h]
I check, followed by a check, and someone I know likes to bet, bets 2.
I Raise to 5., and both call
Pot now 20.
[3c] on Turn
making a Flush draw....
I bet another 5. I think i should bet more...maybe 15?
Both called again
[7c]

I bet 5. again, both called, and the winner had [Jc] [9c] flush.

I think I gave perfect odds for the River callers, but comments please. I'll put my tin-hat on.... <hanged>
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Postby RedBarracuda » Sun Sep 30, 2007 6:34 am

Please specify position, stack sizes and reads.

Raise 4xBB pre flop and you can add +1BB per limper.
Pot sized raise on flop for you is $12. You raised to $5. Go figure.
On the turn you bet $5 into $20 with 2 players behind you. Go figure again.
On the river you bet again $5 into $35 with 2 players still with you. Well, go figure.
Sorry if this seems harsh, but it's sometimes better that way.

Now, you have a rather big hand here. Why not make the most of it? You can bet $5,6 on flop or you can C/R to $10,11,12. If you get caller(s). You put $25 bet on turn (since I don't think you'll get 2 callers on flop) and if he calls and sucks out the flush, at least you know you made a right play that will win you money in the future.

For the future hands you play, make your bets, raises and check raises as close to pot sized as possible and you won't be making a mistake.
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Postby Zuccala » Sun Sep 30, 2007 6:41 am

Agreed, agreed, agreed. You need to make much bigger bets in future if you want to have any success. Giving an opponent 5-1 odds to draw to their flush is criminal. Stack sizes are very important (just as important as the cards).
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Postby concussed » Sun Sep 30, 2007 10:22 am

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Postby stickdude » Sun Sep 30, 2007 1:37 pm

"My name is Inigo Montoya. You cracked my Aces... prepare to die"
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Postby Mr Rossi » Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:17 pm

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Postby RedBarracuda » Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:26 pm

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Postby Mr Rossi » Tue Oct 02, 2007 2:11 am

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Postby JimmyJet » Tue Oct 02, 2007 4:51 am

Fold PF. Even 5 handed, QT is uber weak OOP.

I personally lead out on these flops, generally, unless I have a 51/20 blufftard on my left. In fact, I lead out those times too. For two reasons;

1) At lower limits, people just don't give you credit for having it. Most people trap with this hand. If they trap, they think you trap.

2) If you have a blufftard still to act behind you, paired boards are a favourite spot of theirs for a min raise. So use that to your advantage but make a proper raise.

This only really works if you have a blufftard behind you. Most of the time, I just lead here, I find I make more like this but more importantly, lose less when I give free cards and people draw out. I learned that the hard way.

You screwed this hand up. You knew that already. Good for you for posting it. Learn and move on.
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