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Postby BadBeatMan » Wed Mar 30, 2005 11:23 am

This hand just occured on party.
$100NL binds .50/$1

BB (165.69)
Hero(96.90) with [Qd][Qh]

Hero raises to $2
its folded to the BB who calls

FLOP: [Td] [8s] [Tc]

BB raises to $5...He had been making loose aggressive plays for about the last 20 hands and had just lost a 50 dollar pot on the river. I didn't put him on a ten. But was not even 80% sure.

Hero re-raises to $20, I wanted to take the pot right there. BUT BB calls $13

Turn: [Qc}

BB checks

Hero bets $10... Should my bet have been bigger here?

BB Calls

River. A very Scary card [Th]

BB bets $35 Now Im scared and I probably should have folded, more times that not I would have but I called and won $136 with Queens full.

His cards were shown [7c][9d] He was on a draw the whole time....How badly did I play this.
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Postby devilmollusk » Wed Mar 30, 2005 12:49 pm

I really can't fault your play there, except your pre-flop raise. The minimum raise here is just asking to be outdrawn by some ***** with a small A or Kl.

Doyle Brunson says never to fear quads. If a guy shows you that hand you just pay him off. Other than that you have a lock. I like your small bet on the turn. A check there might also have worked, as you hold the nuts and you want this guy to either catch up or think his hand is good. But against a loose player on tilt, a bet here is a good play. I think you have to trust your reads in these situations. This guy wants to give you all his money. Find a way to let him. Well played.
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Postby Mad Genius » Wed Mar 30, 2005 3:36 pm

Raise more preflop. Raise less on the flop as you are overbetting and will only be called by a Ten usually (this is party, though, so you never know). When the Queen hits the turn throw out a MUCH bigger bet and pray he has a 10. If he has a 10 you should be taking his stack EVERYTIME provided a ten doesn't hit the river. With your tiny $10 bet you aren't building the pot nearly enough to set yourself up for a big river bet. On the river, I think you have to call. He played very passively prior to the river and the big river bet isn't gonna mean quads nearly often enough for you to fold here.
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Postby BadBeatMan » Wed Mar 30, 2005 4:55 pm

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