These guys, like every other jackball at Pac, are very loose and decently aggro... Would a call and raise the turn allin be a better line? I figure if he had QQ he got me already, so how bets to extract from AQ,KQ,QJ type hands...

***** Pacific Hand History for Game 52605648 *****
$1/$2 Blinds No Limit Hold'em - *** 05 29 04:33:17 2006
Table Suburban (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 10: thnxalot ( $203 )
Seat 1: meggaen ( $354.96 )
Seat 2: spidaboy ( $184.5 )
Seat 3: CowGame ( $22 )
Seat 4: ffishr ( $182.7 )
Seat 5: Gonzo81 ( $161 )
Seat 6: russ888 ( $139.05 )
Seat 7: pimen ( $196.52 )
Seat 8: FUGGEDUP ( $180 )
Seat 9: kdsnstin ( $653.3 )
spidaboy posts small blind [$1].
CowGame posts big blind [$2].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to FUGGEDUP
ffishr folds.
Gonzo81 raises [$8].
russ888 calls [$8].
pimen folds.
FUGGEDUP raises [$30].
kdsnstin folds.
thnxalot folds
meggaen folds.
spidaboy calls [$29].
CowGame folds.
Gonzo81 folds.
russ888 calls [$22].
** Dealing Flop **
spidaboy bets [$20].
russ888 folds.
FUGGEDUP raises [$150].

I raise this every day for one simple reason. What hands do you fear? AA and QQ. So is a guy with AA or QQ going to cold call a preflop reraise to x15BB AND lead a flop? No. They would check it to the pfr who they know will bet. People RARELY lead with their monsters.

I raise to 70. If he pushes you have to make a tough decision. If the has AK, you're taking it down now. If the has JJ he either wasn't putting in another dime, or you just pot committed him.

You're not folding to a push. You're trying to get more money out of him.

If he's a jackball he obviously isn't paying attention to what you're betting or how much you're leaving behind, unless it tells him you're all in then he wakes up.

I'd listen to this Kenny dude, from what I hear he plays pretty well.

Yeah... one of my few mistakes durin my magical run here... I guess you see guys call here w/ Q7 so often that it warps the mind eventually..

Points taken...