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Conflicting Preflop Tells (200NL)

Postby T-Rod » Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:14 am

Villain 1 is a donkfish for sure. 40/20 type.

Villain 2 is tighter but not great. 35/5 type.

I've had some good hands lately so I've been raising. I'm viewed as agro for sure.


Villain 1 raised UTG to 8
Villain 2 cold calls

I repop to 25 with A[h] Q[h] in LP.

Villain 1 now calls. This is not news as he'll call there with A5s. He's that bad and that's why I'm raising.

Villain 2 now shoves a full stack.

So I'm conflicted:
Villain 2 should have reraised preflop with a good hand, and he could be squeezing me here since he feels I'm too agro.

However,

Villain 2 has just cold called a raise and then pushed over a reraise for a full stack. Is he doing that with AJ?
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Postby shamdonk » Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:30 am

POKERSTARS GAME #15673060991: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($1/$2) - 2008/03/01 - 21:43:59 (ET)
Table 'Sycorax III' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: JSM42 ($69.45 in chips)
Seat 2: zomertje ($153 in chips)
Seat 3: shamrock20 ($523.65 in chips)
Seat 5: HaLoHaLo ($187.15 in chips)
Seat 6: GruvMachine ($198 in chips)
cwmizner will be allowed to play after the button
HaLoHaLo: posts small blind $1
GruvMachine: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to shamrock20 [Ah Qd]
JSM42: raises $4 to $6
zomertje: calls $6
shamrock20: raises $19 to $25
HaLoHaLo: folds
GruvMachine: folds
JSM42: folds
zomertje: raises $128 to $153 and is all-in
shamrock20: calls $128
*** FLOP *** [8h 3c 7d]
*** TURN *** [8h 3c 7d] [6h]
*** RIVER *** [8h 3c 7d 6h] [Jh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
zomertje: shows [Jc Ad] (a pair of Jacks)
shamrock20: mucks hand
zomertje collected $313 from pot

edit: thought it was kinda funny how we almost played the exact same hand. He will have like JJ,TT-44 sometimes too but since theres so much in the middle smush the call button.
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Postby shamdonk » Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:32 pm

Be glad your opponents refuse to fold; if they didn't, you just might go broke.


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Postby Twelver » Wed Mar 05, 2008 1:52 pm

I call, he is going to have like 99/TT here a lot.
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Postby DoctorHandles » Wed Mar 05, 2008 2:08 pm

The better player should win the race. Always.
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Postby Triple B » Wed Mar 05, 2008 2:17 pm

Villain: Why?
Villain: How?
Me: I had a feeling
Villian: Sit in you cretin
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Postby Xaston » Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:56 pm

Why would we fold?
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Postby phytopath » Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:08 pm

I think it is close, but I lean towards folding here. I don't see players this passive go nuts with much besides QQ+ and maybe AK here. I disagree that he would necessarily re-raise with a good hand he only raises 5% and probably 4-bets a helluva lot less. His call re-raise is odd, but unless you have seen him showdown a non-premium hand after doing something like this I think you can give him credit here.
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Postby T-Rod » Thu Mar 06, 2008 8:12 am

RESULTS

Villain 2 crushed Villain 1 with his KK.
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