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A couple of laydowns - good or not? ($25 FR)

Postby Runner_Runner » Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:01 pm

Both hands below vs. the same Villian. Comments on the laydowns would be most helpful.

Hand #1: No read on Villian yet. Can't really think of anything besides AK that would take Villian's preflop line that I beat. If I call his flop bet, I'm tied to the pot.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (8 handed) from (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

saw flop|saw showdown

BB ($3.50)
UTG ($10.15)
UTG+1 ($22)
MP1 ($5.48)
MP2 ($23.20)
CO ($20.45)
Hero ($26.45)
SB ($8.24)

Preflop: Hero is Button with KImage, KImage. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, MP1 calls $0.25, MP2 raises to $2.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $6, 2 folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $3.75.

Flop: ($12.85) 9Image, QImage, 3Image (2 players)
MP2 bets $5, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $17.85

Hand #2: A little later in session. I've seen Villian push flops with very marginal hands with mixed results...getting snapped off and called by worse hands, so it's been pretty breakeven for him. Also seen him make a few untimely river bluffs. Loose and aggressive play overall, but not very good.

I don't think I like my turn play much, but I can't really put my finger on where I went wrong...

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) from (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

saw flop|saw showdown

UTG ($13.85)
UTG+1 ($7.80)
MP1 ($18.43)
MP2 ($25)
MP3 ($33.98)
CO ($25)
Button ($12.62)
Hero ($25)
BB ($25)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9Image, 9Image. MP2 posts a blind of $0.25. Hero posts a blind of $0.10.
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.25, MP2 (poster) checks, MP3 raises to $2.25, 2 folds, Hero (poster) calls $2.15, 1 fold, MP1 folds, MP2 folds.

Flop: ($5.25) 4Image, 5Image, 6Image (2 players)
Hero bets $4, MP3 calls $4.

Turn: ($13.25) TImage (2 players)
Hero bets $6, MP3 raises to $12, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $31.25
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Postby The Golden 1 » Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:12 pm

1st fold is terrible.
Raise preflop much more, probably to $8 or so, then get it all in on that flop everytime. You dont think he lays AQ or QK like this? Way overestimating a typical NL25'er (from what I've read) in my opinion.

2nd hand I think the turn is a check is in order most of the time, he's drawing to 6 outs if we give him the free card or its possible we're beat already. This is why being OOP sucks. If I'm bet I'm sure as hell not betting less than half pot, that is pretty much screaming "I have no hand please raise me."
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Postby DoctorHandles » Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:34 pm

Hand #1 is absolutely horrible. Don't ever fold that.

Hand #2 I think you should checkraise if you're confident he's that bad and calling with a crappy draw, or check/fold. He might scream "POT ODDS!!!!!!" if he bets $6 on the turn and you push him all in and he holds a crappy pair + draw.
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Postby Danhdan » Fri Sep 08, 2006 2:08 am

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