These are $200 tables but I had bought into each for the default $80 buy-in whilst I got used to Stars (haven't played there this year)

hand 1

POKERSTARS GAME #4911669828:
HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($1/$2) - 2006/05/12 - 15:45:38 (ET)
Table 'Veteraniya' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: perten ($245.90 in chips)
Seat 2: n17 boy ($98.35 in chips)
Seat 3: consilience ($163.10 in chips)
Seat 4: mannygreek ($65 in chips)
Seat 5: RomarioX ($98 in chips)
Seat 6: the__whale4 ($308.40 in chips)
consilience: posts small blind $1
mannygreek: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to consilience
RomarioX: folds
the__whale4: raises $4 to $6
perten: folds
n17 boy: calls $6
consilience: calls $5
mannygreek: folds
*** FLOP ***
consilience: checks
the__whale4: bets $14
n17 boy: folds
consilience: raises $14 to $28
the__whale4: raises $274.40 to $302.40 and is all-in
consilience: ?


whale is a 43/20 player with flop aggression of 4.6.
he wins 40% of hand when he sees flop
he has been to showdown 3 times in 75 hands so far and has won each time..


hand 2
POKERSTARS GAME #4911517269: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($1/$2) - 2006/05/12 - 15:26:41 (ET)
Table 'Orion II' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Slah ($108.70 in chips)
Seat 2: consilience ($87 in chips)
Seat 3: KKrAAAzy88s ($614.30 in chips)
Seat 4: ghansen35 ($485.35 in chips)
Seat 5: liji ($155.15 in chips)
Seat 6: mythrilfox ($578.65 in chips)
Slah: posts small blind $1
consilience: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to consilience
KKrAAAzy88s: folds
ghansen35: calls $2
liji: folds
mythrilfox: folds
Slah: calls $1
consilience: checks
*** FLOP ***
Slah: checks
consilience: bets $4
ghansen35: calls $4
Slah: folds
*** TURN *** [[Kh]
consilience: bets $6
ghansen35: calls $6
*** RIVER ***
consilience: bets $10
ghansen35: raises $166 to $176
consilience: ?

ghansen's stats are 27/11, aggression 5.5
i only have 40 hands on him
he has been to river 3 other times and this is the first time he has raised (he bet out twice and checked once)

Easy call first hand. Top 2 with a lot of draws, he is on a straight, or flush, or straight flush draw, so ahead, or a bit behind. I wouldn't worry too much about a set here.
(You minraised him?!!!)

Second hand is not so easy but I would still call, because you are not deep enough to fold this. Even if he has a flush chances are it is a lower than yours with suited connectors like 76s. If you has 100BB I would fold without a read.

I think they are both easy calls personally.

first one you're going to be shown AA, AK, or a draw of some sort far more often than you'll be down KK/QQ. i call in a hearbeat.

on the last hand, given his play it's hard to put him on a flush, especially being backdoor. my gut says he was slowplaying a set and freaked out on the river. i call here too. if he has something like like [4h]/[Ah][5h], but that's just one of those 'so be it' cases.

I'm fairly certain you're going to have the best hand in these cases far more often than not. both are definate calls.

I agree - and called them both down.

Actually I think the first is a harder call than the 2nd.

The only way I am beat in the second is if he happened to have backed into the same flush as I did but with an or - full marks to Stev who nailed him exactly - he had a set of 2's.

The first one worried me more, because of the deeeper stacks and the fact that the stats said he only got his money in with the best of it. He was far from a donk.
He had for the str8 flush draw but fortunately for me he missed both.

Are cards exposed once players are all-in on the site you play? If so, I can imagine you pumping your fist dodging all those outs on #1

Yesterday I had T8s all in against KK on a T8J flop. That was scary. But cards aren't exposed where I play, so I didn't know exactly what I was up against.. (although I assumed KK or AA).

Hand #1)

to excession..... Him having [Ts] is the reason you should be min check raising.
to villain.........you dont push a big draw after getting min check raised. You have NO fold equity. Ive said it a million times, people who min raise DONT fold. Especially in a raised pot.

I dont like either of your plays, but like I said earlier. Its an easy call after he pushes. If Im him, I just call your min check raise and try to outdraw you cheap.

Hand #2) How can a guy with a 5.5 aggression NOT raise that turn? What a chump. He calls, calls and then overbets like a MOFO when his hand just got alot weaker and more likey he just lost his action because you arent calling without a flush.

Its no wonder why this game is so easy to beat.