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Lead into the raiser

Postby iceman5 » Sun Mar 27, 2005 5:25 pm

This is a good example of why is a good idea alot of the time to lead into the raiser with a set. The 1st reason is that theres a guy between me and the raiser. If we both check to him, hes going to bet, Im going to raise because of the flush draw on the board and now the middle guy will fold. (Well this moron might not but most will).

But since I led out, the middle guy had to decide what to do before seeing what the raiser is going to do. Even if he didnt raise all in, he mightve called and then when the preflop raiser raises, he loses his dead money.

Also, when you raise with AA, a caller leads into you and another caller raises all in.....this is a good sign to get the heck out of there. Your Aces are no good, 90% of the time.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed)

CO ($400.1)
Button ($182.9)
SB ($477.2)
BB ($349.2)
Hero ($394)
UTG+1 ($169.4)
UTG+2 ($403.4)
MP1 ($229.6)
MP2 ($463.6)
MP3 ($184.3)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with [Th], [Ts]. SB posts a blind of $2.
Hero calls $4, 3 folds, MP2 calls $4, MP3 calls $4, CO raises to $18, 3 folds, Hero calls $14, MP2 calls $14, MP3 calls $14.

Flop: ($78) [2c], [Tc], [9h] (4 players)
Hero bets $40, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $166.30 (All-In), CO raises to $292.61, Hero calls $336 (All-In), CO calls $83.39.

Turn: ($996.30) [Jd] (3 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($996.30) [4s] (3 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $996.30
Main Pot: $576.90, between CO, Hero and MP3. > Pot won by Hero ($576.90).
Pot 2: $419.40, between CO and Hero. > Pot won by Hero ($419.40).

Results in white below:
Hero has Th Ts (three of a kind, tens).
MP3 has Td Kd (one pair, tens).
CO has Ac As (one pair, aces).
Outcome: Hero wins $996.30.
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Postby Yogadude » Sun Mar 27, 2005 6:54 pm

Very nice! I played a pot just like this today, called a raise with 1010, saw a 10 high flop all diamonds, I bet out 2/3 the pot and KK (with K diamonds) raised, i pushed in and filled up on the turn for a nice double up. Nice trapping that guy in the middle drawing dead.

Are there any times when you dont lead at the pot in this game? A few, but I sure have success leading with my big hands. I did check KJ with a KJJ flop in an unraised pot today, but other than full houses I usually lead.

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Postby palman » Sun Mar 27, 2005 8:58 pm

Couldn't agree more. The value isn't so much in getting all the chips of the guy with aces here... since that might well happen regardless..... but it's in getting guys with TPTK to commit their stacks, when if you check raise they might well fold.

Furthermore, doing that really should open up your ability to open lead and steal pots.
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Postby k3nt » Sun Mar 27, 2005 11:54 pm

Nice job. And thanks for the post. Well stated, clear, and makes a hell of a lot of sense. When I'm sure I'm up against a good solid hand, I promise to lead into him when I hit my set.
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