Light 4bet gets called, now what?
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Light 4bet gets called, now what?
by black_knight6 » Fri Mar 07, 2008 4:56 pm
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by black_knight6 » Fri Mar 07, 2008 5:56 pm
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by GodlikeRoy » Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:04 pm
Poker is silly.
It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.
Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.
It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.
Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.
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by GodlikeRoy » Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:40 pm
Sup
Poker is silly.
It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.
Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.
It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.
Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.
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by Triple B » Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:51 pm
I agree with Xaston, I would not 4-bet this hand. I also would not 4-bet so big. Make it 32-36 BBs instead.
As played I would probably just shove since you 4-bet so darn big.
As played I would probably just shove since you 4-bet so darn big.
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by Triple B » Sat Mar 08, 2008 3:07 pm
Aisthesis,
Why do you want to 4-bet so big? Sure you put the decision to him, but his decision becomes quite easy. He will fold everything he doesn't want to felt and shove the rest. He knows he has no fold equity. Plus, if you 4-bet this big you can't bluff very often or you will get owned a LOT.
Why do you want to 4-bet so big? Sure you put the decision to him, but his decision becomes quite easy. He will fold everything he doesn't want to felt and shove the rest. He knows he has no fold equity. Plus, if you 4-bet this big you can't bluff very often or you will get owned a LOT.
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by black_knight6 » Sat Mar 08, 2008 5:53 pm
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by ToastedMoses » Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:19 pm
I think you need to have a significant dynamic built up to be 4-betting this hand, and even then I'm not sure its a great line.
If you expect to be inducing a lot of weak 5-bet shoves then the 4-bet is ok, but make your 4b much smaller (BBB's suggestion is good)
If you are using a QQ+/Axs 4-bet shove scheme then ais's line is ok.
Mostly though I'm with the CRAI camp.
And if now that you've put this much in the middle just shove.
If you expect to be inducing a lot of weak 5-bet shoves then the 4-bet is ok, but make your 4b much smaller (BBB's suggestion is good)
If you are using a QQ+/Axs 4-bet shove scheme then ais's line is ok.
Mostly though I'm with the CRAI camp.
And if now that you've put this much in the middle just shove.
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