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Postby MVPSPORTS » Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:00 am

So I got this douchenozzle on my table... He's like 18/15 and I noticed at least a few times that he had 3bet me... Wasn't sure if he had a good run of cards or if he was getting sick of me raising so much or what... Unfortunately, every time I had like a semi-crappy hand or whatever and never saw his cards... Sometimes he did it to me as a squeeze, sometimes I would raise CO and he would 3bet button... Then, I saw him play this hand...

STAGE #910799354: HOLDEM NO LIMIT $0.50 - 2008-02-20 00:12:09 (ET)
Table: GLENDALE (Real Money) Seat #6 is the dealer
Seat 6 - FUGGEDUP4LYF ($99.75 in chips)
Seat 1 - COMICBOOK ($27 in chips)
Seat 2 - LILCUTIEBEE ($115.65 in chips)
Seat 3 - BAPAK ($15.50 in chips)
Seat 4 - SMOOV_E ($70.03 in chips)
Seat 5 - BINGO_AA ($25.50 in chips)
COMICBOOK - Posts small blind $0.25
LILCUTIEBEE - Posts big blind $0.50
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to FUGGEDUP4LYF [7c] [8c]
BAPAK - Folds
SMOOV_E - Folds
BINGO_AA - Folds
FUGGEDUP4LYF - Raises $2 to $2
COMICBOOK - Calls $1.75
LILCUTIEBEE - Raises $9.50 to $10
FUGGEDUP4LYF - Folds
COMICBOOK - Calls $8
*** FLOP *** [Td] [As] [8s]
COMICBOOK - All-In $17
LILCUTIEBEE - Calls $17
*** TURN *** [Td] [As] [8s] [Kh]
*** RIVER *** [Td] [As] [8s] [Kh] [5c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
COMICBOOK - Shows [6d] [6s] (One pair, sixes)
LILCUTIEBEE - Shows [Qd] [Jh] (Straight, ten to ace)
LILCUTIEBEE Collects $52.70 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($56) | Rake ($2.80) | Jackpot Rake ($0.50)
Board [10d As 8s Kh 5c]
Seat 1: COMICBOOK (small blind) HI:lost with One pair, sixes [6d 6s - P:6s,P:6d,B:As,B:Kh,B:10d]
Seat 2: LILCUTIEBEE (big blind) won Total ($52.70) HI:($52.70) with Straight, ten to ace [Qd Jh - B:As,B:Kh,P:Qd,P:Jh,B:10d]
Seat 3: BAPAK Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 4: SMOOV_E Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 5: BINGO_AA Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 6: FUGGEDUP4LYF (dealer) Folded on the POCKET CARDS

His 3bets are always really big, like $9+... Also, were always 200bbish deep...

So now what???
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Postby phytopath » Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:13 am

play more with comicbook and less with this TAG.
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Postby MVPSPORTS » Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:20 am

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Postby GodlikeRoy » Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:27 am

1) change seats
2) if you can't do that, just tighten up and open fewer pots
Poker is silly.

It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.

Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.

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Postby Aisthesis » Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:11 am

Well, back to the range discussion, first, I'm guessing this is a different site than Stars.

Secondly, on whatever site, as soon as you get this "3-betting frequently" read, then everything changes. You obviously don't get to see hole cards, but if they're 3-betting like every second orbit, they're not doing it with big hands.

I really think the way to go is to push KK+, AK and AXs as soon as you have that read. My point is simply (after losing probably 4 stacks with AK and every single time running into a big hand) that YOU MUST HAVE THAT READ before pushing it.

And I also don't have a problem with contrary assumptions on different sites at different levels. From what TR says, it's fairly uncommon at the 1/2. I do know I ran into the loose raises specifically from 2 players at the .50/1 on Stars, hence got encouraged to push AK at the 50s--and ended up behind to AA/KK 3 times that I can recall and losing to QQ once. Those are the only hands I've seen turned over at the 50s following a big re-raise from a full stack.
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Postby Stoneburg » Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:54 am

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Postby NorthView » Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:41 am

Mon May 12, 2008 1:46 am
When I play a patient and relaxed game I win - that simple.

Mon May 12, 2008 10:55 pm
Seriously, fuck poker.
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[21:03] NorthViewBTP: mac is a fellow mexican
[21:03] Mekosking: yup
[21:03] NorthViewBTP: you should support your bro
[21:03] Mekosking: therefore hes a fat worthless tsr obv
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Postby MVPSPORTS » Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:36 am

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Postby Stoneburg » Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:46 am

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Postby NorthView » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:34 am

Mon May 12, 2008 1:46 am
When I play a patient and relaxed game I win - that simple.

Mon May 12, 2008 10:55 pm
Seriously, fuck poker.
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[21:03] NorthViewBTP: mac is a fellow mexican
[21:03] Mekosking: yup
[21:03] NorthViewBTP: you should support your bro
[21:03] Mekosking: therefore hes a fat worthless tsr obv
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Postby GodlikeRoy » Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:15 pm

Poker is silly.

It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.

Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.

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Postby shamdonk » Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:50 pm

Be glad your opponents refuse to fold; if they didn't, you just might go broke.


(9:00:09 PM) GodlikeRoy: i think you could prolly post total shit for the next 2 years aaaaand like 192 days and you'll still be considered 'posting good' cause of your threads that'll never be seen thread
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Postby MVPSPORTS » Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:53 pm

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Postby shamdonk » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:02 pm

Be glad your opponents refuse to fold; if they didn't, you just might go broke.


(9:00:09 PM) GodlikeRoy: i think you could prolly post total shit for the next 2 years aaaaand like 192 days and you'll still be considered 'posting good' cause of your threads that'll never be seen thread
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