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Re: New short stack experiment.

Postby bkholdem » Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:51 pm

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Postby RedBarracuda » Sat Jun 09, 2007 6:08 am

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Postby iceman5 » Sat Jun 09, 2007 6:59 am

I just played 50 hands and won another $75. Almost 4 of my 20BB stacks in 50 hands.

My win rate is now 23.13 PTBBs. Im doing "sklansky bucs" calulations on all my "all in" hands because there are alot of them and a big part of my win rate has to do with how well Im running. My "actual" win rate after factoring in the sklansky buc all ins is 12.56 PTBBs. So, Im running hot in my all ins, but if my true win rate is anywhere near 12 PTBBs I'll be very happy. Maybe peopel will adjust in time, but I doubt it. They just think "short stack....donk...let me get all in"

Examples from this mini session:

#1) Button open raises...I shove for $19 with AT. He calls with 77 and I win. I wont be shoving anything worse than 77 so I can never be a dog here.

#2) MP open raises to $3.50. I call in the BB with [Kc][Jc]. Flop is [Ks][7s][5h]. I check, He bets $6. I CRAI to $19. he calls with [As][8s]. I win.

#3) I raise to $5 after a limper with [Jh][Jd]. The BB reraises enough to put me all in for $19. I call. He has [Ac][Jc]. I win

#4). Cutoff raises to $3. I have $22 and call with [Js][Ts]. BB also calls.
Pot $10. Flop [Ah][Ks][4d]. Checked around
Pot $10. Turn [Kc]. They check to me. I bet $6 and take it down.

If anyone has interest in following this experiment I may start a short stack journal and post results and certain hands as I go.

Right now, Im at $133.77 / hr and my "actual" win rate is $72.64 / hr
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Postby bkholdem » Sat Jun 09, 2007 8:00 am

As you know another factor that will effect your win rate is the frequency with which you get dealt playable hands which, as you know, can vary greatly over small sample sizes.

Since your playing at the 100's (are you playing the 9 handed or 6 handed games?) the regulars who use PAHUD and whatnot don't have stats on you yet which will probably impact your rate some.

The 100 games have more idiots and single tabling casual players I would guess so most players will probably not adjust properly even with the stats lol. I don't like to drop to the 100's to shortstack but do so occasionally when I want to play and larger games are tight/dead. It seems that you can limp more frequently at the 100's than in the higher games (as in playing sm pr's from EP on 20bb's for a limp) but I dont' use any tracking systems like PT anymore. I do use the color coding devise and notes though. If your not going to stick with the 100's it probalby isn't worth the effort but I find it helpful to know who is on 12 tables, 8 tables, 4 tables (the biggest suckers are on 1 or 2 lol) and also like to get a note or 2 on whether or not they will make bad calls to a push, fold to a push too much, or make a smart/reasoned call.
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Postby GodlikeRoy » Sat Jun 09, 2007 9:01 am

Random thought: It'd probably be close to being +EV to shove over any BTN open if you're in the blinds if he's a fairly aggro TAG.
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Postby iceman5 » Sat Jun 09, 2007 9:56 am

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