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Postby RedBarracuda » Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:16 am

Villain quaded me in a 3bet pot on another table earlier when he flopped JJ3fd with his pocket jacks, and I had AA and was betting into him and lost a stack obv.
Not sure what to do here in terms of calling or raising? I am more fond of raising on the river because it's either AA, AK,AQ,AJ,KK,QQ,JJ or air I think. The only hands that really crush me are AA, AQ and QQ here which are all possible i guess, but i don't think are most likely?

My turn raise is such because I was hopping (dunno why) the UTG+1 player will wake up or that villain will reveal his hand here somehow. I didn't know what to think of his river bet TBH. I thought it's weak or milking.. dunno...

All in all I am pretty confused with this hand so I need help, on all streets would be good too.. thanks..

$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at

Profiles and Stacks:
UTG ($182.15) 31.5/21.3/2.4 (352)
UTG+1 ($115.10) 18.6/7.4/3.0 (1276)
Hero ($226.00) 14.0/10.7/2.7 (107)
BTN ($84.77) 41.7/0.0/0.5 (204)
SB ($95.70) 31.1/8.1/2.1 (322)
BB ($69.83) 39.5/7.0/2.2 (43)

Pre-flop: ($1.5, 6 players) Hero is CO [9s][9c]
UTG raises to $6 ($176.15), UTG+1 calls $6 ($109.10), Hero calls $6 ($220.00), 3 folds

Flop: [Ad][2s][Qh] ($19.5, 3 players)
UTG checks ($176.15), UTG+1 checks ($109.10), Hero checks ($220.00)

Turn: [9d] ($19.5, 3 players)
UTG bets $10 ($166.15), UTG+1 calls $10 ($99.10), Hero raises to $35 ($185.00), UTG calls $25 ($141.15), UTG+1 folds ($99.10)

River: [Ac] ($99.5, 2 players)
UTG bets $40 ($101.15), $40 to Hero ($185)?
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(6:35:59 PM) hard2tel45s: boxing?
(6:36:06 PM) giantgrwth: Yea
(6:36:14 PM) hard2tel45s: sweet
(6:36:30 PM) giantgrwth: He was my best friend too, lol
(6:36:48 PM) hard2tel45s: well u were in the crazy bin bro
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Postby JimmyJet » Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:25 am

UTG is running at 31/25 here right?

I would bet all of my chips on the river then.

If he has AQ, AA or QQ, good for him.
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Postby NVG » Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:40 am

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Postby Twelver » Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:10 am

Mekos King (10:21:59 PM): one of the first rules of manlaw
Mekos King (10:22:06 PM): is never ever try to suck backup to a bitch
Mekos King (10:22:09 PM): who caught u cheatin
Mekos King (10:22:23 PM): unless your married and would lose like money inna divorce
Mekos King (10:22:33 PM): then u suckup just long enuf to get close enough to killer obv

Heat517163 (5:05:37 PM): black people man
Heat517163 (5:05:40 PM): they travel in packs
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Postby black_knight6 » Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:35 am

He has random AX hands so often here (AND will call a shove) that you should shove.
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Postby k3nt » Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:42 am

Raise turn bigger!!!!

As played, river is a shove against most opponents but it's a call against a portion of them: the super-predictable ones who will only raise preflop then check the flop with sets or whiffs. In other words, if he can't have AK or AJ here, a river shove is -EV.
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Postby Xaston » Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:00 am

Boy, you got me confused with a man who repeats himself.
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Postby iwanturcoin » Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:12 pm

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Postby AlexMR » Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:29 pm

[17:16] alitomr: http://micropenis.ws/forum/viewtopic.php?t=723
[17:19] mekosking: wow
[17:19] mekosking: i give that poof a week tops
[17:19] mekosking: before he snuffs it
[17:19] mekosking: I THINK THAT MAY BE NV
[17:20] mekosking: IN DISGUISE
[17:20] alitomr: LOLZ
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Postby RedBarracuda » Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:12 pm

I agree my turn raise was too small... but in this specific scenario, not by much I believe.. I would shove river all day against this kind of villain but I would like to hear the explanations for call (namely Xaston) here since i am interested why... thanks..

ok.. here's what happened in case someone is interested..

River: [Ac] ($99.5, 2 players)
UTG bets $40 ($101.15), Hero raises to $185 ($0.00), UTG calls $101.15 ($0.00)
Final Pot: $469.5
UTG shows: [Qc][Qs]
Hero shows: [9s][9c]
UTG wins $378.8 ( won +$196.65 )
UTG+1 lost -$16.00
Hero lost -$226.00
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Postby iwanturcoin » Tue Nov 06, 2007 3:14 pm

I'm definitely not Xaston .... but my reason for a call is simply his line. Sure you ahead of heaps of his range but I think his line does not add up to the most it. He's 31/21/2.4...so i haven't played with him and I don't know but that definitely does'nt mean he's retarded and i'm guessing someone with an AG of 2.4 isn't checking a TPTK/GK type hand too often, I think he's value betting it.

Turn pretty much is a blank so he leads 1/2 pot trying to build the pot while keep someone in, I think this screams monster or air. He then calls a raise and leads river?? I think some you guys are'nt giving some players enough credit here. I'm guessing he leads weakly figuring you probably don't have that big of a hand seeing you checked the flop?

Thats my thought of it anyway...right or wrong
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Postby Zuccala » Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:04 pm

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