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NL25 - a few hands w/ questions

Postby bdon22 » Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:56 am

Hand 1: I should be betting this turn very very often shouldn't I? The truth is I had a big hand on another table and I accidentally checked this behind without any thought. Knowing this, it's not that big of a mistake to draw to the nut flush for free is it? Do I bluff the river? Villain is very passive and has been limping and completing hands like AQ, AJ, etc.

$0.1/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at

Stacks:
UTG ($46.40)
CO ($23.75)
BTN ($29.70)
SB ($36.75)
Hero ($44.10)

Pre-flop: ($0.35, 5 players) Hero is BB [Ac][Tc]
UTG calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25, 1 fold, SB calls $0.15, Hero raises to $1.5, UTG calls $1.25, CO folds, SB calls $1.25

Flop: [7c][7s][8c] ($4.75, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $4, 1 fold, SB calls $4

Turn: [2d] ($12.75, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: [5d] ($12.75, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Final Pot: $12.75

Hand 2: Every draw missed and his large bet smells weak. I put him in for his last 30 cents. Villain is 18/9/0.75

$0.1/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at

Stacks:
UTG ($20.65)
UTG+1 ($28.20)
CO ($6.25)
Hero ($26.75)
SB ($12.60)
BB ($46.20)

Pre-flop: ($0.35, 6 players) Hero is BTN [Ac][Qs]
UTG calls $0.25, 1 fold, CO calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.35, 1 fold, BB calls $1.1, UTG calls $1.1, CO calls $1.1

Flop: [6s][Kc][Qc] ($5.5, 4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, CO checks, Hero bets $4, BB folds, UTG calls $4, CO folds

Turn: [8h] ($13.5, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: [Ks] ($13.5, 2 players)
UTG bets $15, Hero goes all-in $21.4, UTG calls $0.3

Final Pot: $44.10

Hand 3: Villain has less than 70BB to start. When he bets I pretty much can't fold this but I can't call it either. In most cases I am either a 2:1 favorite or I'm flipping here, is that correct?

$0.1/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at

Stacks:
UTG ($17.40)
UTG+1 ($8.55)
CO ($19.75)
Hero ($24.40)
SB ($41.90)
BB ($24.65)

Pre-flop: ($0.35, 6 players) Hero is BTN [8c][7c]
UTG calls $0.25, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.1, 2 folds, UTG raises to $1.95, Hero calls $0.85

Flop: [Jh][7h][8h] ($4.25, 2 players)
UTG bets $3.75, Hero goes all-in $22.45, UTG calls $11.7

Turn: [Jc] ($42.15, 2 players)

River: [Ts] ($42.15, 2 players)

Final Pot: $35.15
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Postby Stoneburg » Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:15 am

#1
That raise from the BB is a bit aggressive, especially at a loose table where you will get callers and be forced to play OOP. ATs is a great hand to see a multiway flop with in these conditions so I think a check is better. Post flop I think you play it fine. He either has T9 or overcards, and will fold to your bet, or he has a pair and won't, so no need to bet it. He probably doesn't have AJ+ so your Ace high should be good against everything but a pair.

#2
I don't get it. You only beat a busted draw, and he's not going to fold for another 0.30 so what is the point of pushing? Anyway, I think you should fold this since he's repping a K.

#3
He probably has AA/KK here, problem is that if he has a heart he's got 9+2+3 outs on the flop and 3 more outs on the turn unless he hits, so you're not a big favorite. But your play is reasonable.
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Postby MBuckler » Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:17 am

1) i check behind often...its very likely that he shows up with an 8 or 7 or even some mid-small PP that he wants to get stubborn with and that turn is not going to scare/fold out any better hands...

2) if you're going to put him in on the river might as well bet the turn...i would guess he's got some weak K and tripped up on the river...

3) looks like Jx with x of h's which has a crapload of equity against your hand...i probably toss it when he leads into me after min 3-betting me PF...now if the flop isnt all one suit...
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Postby Zuccala » Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:51 am

Hand #1

I think you should fire another shell on the turn. You dont have antype of showndown value here so a bet is better. If you had like 2nd pair and FD a check may be better but a bet is better here IMO.

Hand #2

Fold river.

Hand #3

Call flop and get agressive on a non [h] turn. Our equity improves dramatically with one card to go, Any overpair/over card with the [Kh] or [Ah] is gonna comeback over and we a just a slight fav.
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Postby Triple B » Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:58 am

Villain: Why?
Villain: How?
Me: I had a feeling
Villian: Sit in you cretin
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Postby Zuccala » Thu Jan 24, 2008 2:14 pm

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Postby MBuckler » Thu Jan 24, 2008 4:50 pm

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Postby ChaseThis » Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:37 pm

Hand 1: I would often bet the turn w/o thinking, then kick myself later b/c at 25nl, I don't think anything that calls the flop folds the turn enough to bet it (assuming we're talking average unknown).

Hand 2: Not sure what your sample size is, but 0.75? Yikes. I'd still fold it against all but the blufftards. Well, I would unless I'm tilty.

Hand 3: I'd call flop and go with it on a safe turn.
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Postby bdon22 » Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:46 am

Is this a bad spot to CB into 3 opponents? The turn is a similar situation as in hand 1 but I think this is a better spot to bet since I might get a hand like 99 or AT to fold? As played the CR really sucked...

$0.1/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at

Stacks:
UTG ($11.05)
CO ($28.05)
Hero ($25.75)
SB ($23.40)
BB ($25.00)

Pre-flop: ($0.35, 5 players) Hero is BTN [8c][9c]
UTG calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.1, SB calls $1, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.85

Flop: [5s][Th][7c] ($3.55, 3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $3, SB calls $3, UTG folds

Turn: [Qh] ($9.55, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $7, SB goes all-in $19.3, Hero folds

Final Pot: $23.55

SB wins $34.7 ( won +$11.3 )
UTG lost -$1.10
Hero lost -$11.10
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Postby MBuckler » Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:02 pm

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Postby Zuccala » Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:44 pm

Hand #1

I like the turn bet. We have a weak showdown hand here and we do have outs. So lets take a shot at taking down the pot (we have position).If we bet we are either gonna charge a draw, fold a PP that called flop to see what we do on turn and take down the pot. I mean if we had something even like 2nd pair we could check for pot control and re-eval on river. As played betting is the only way we are gonna win. But if we check and miss we are gonna fold anyway, So I think we should take the initiative.

Obviously, it would have been better for a Q,K, to fall for a scare card for our bet. But he would call that flop witha WIDE range. Like any PP, SD,FD. A large portion of his range is gonna fold to that turn bet. BUT, if he calls wiith anything other than tripps we have 15 outs to beat his one pair hand(assuming we are not sharing a card). If he has a draw our Ace high may be best, I dont see how checking is better. If he raises....we fold, so we are not scared of a raise,
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Postby Zuccala » Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:21 pm

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