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NL50 FR datamining results or how to reach >8PTBB/100; 1

Postby MHFlush » Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:28 am

Here I present some hopefully interesting results of datamining 120k hands full ring of NL50. The hands are from Prima, Party, Pokerroom, Full Tilt and Pokerstars this and last month.

Excessions pokertracker (www.livepokerforum.com) series is well known and excellent. However, sometimes he dives not deep enough for my likely and he has many data from guys with only 50 hands or so.

Well, here is what I did:
I have 12472 players in total with a medium PTBB/100 of –3.92 (of course it is negative due to the rake). 141 players have >1000 hands and 34 players >2000 hands.

Out of these 34 players in part 1 I take a look at the top 4 players, with >8PTBB/100, which have roughly the same style of play. There are two other players with >8PTBB/100, but they have completely different styles and to draw conclusions it is easier to leave them out.

Here are the medium values of the 4 top players, comparison to the worst players out of that 34 (which are still better than the normal fish) and some comments:

1.) PTBB/100: 11.05

2.) VPIP: 21.0 It is well known that a VPIP of roughly 20 yields the best results. The top players have 17-23 VPIP. But also most of the bad players are in that range.

3.) PFR: 6.23% This number seems to be not so important, since many bad players are also in this range.

4.) VPIP_SB: 37.75% I was surprised about this number, I expected a much lower one. And what is even more interesting is that the 4 top players have VPIPs_SB from 23 to 62%! Interesting to note is that the bad players have a smaller VPIP_SB.

5.) Folded SB to steal: 87.20% The SB is the worst position after the flop so one should fold it quite often. But the bad players have roughly the same number.

6.) Folded BB to steal: 79.81% The BB has a slightly better position and more money in the pot. Bad players fold a little bit less often.

7.) Blinds steal attempts: 19.55% This seems to be very important because the bad players steal only 8.07% of the time.

8.) Continuation bet percentage: 4.16. This number is NOT in pokertracker, I divided the “First action after PF raise bet: Bet” though “First action after PF raise bet: Check”. So 4.16 means that you bet 4.16 times more often than check (so roughly 80% to 20%). This number is also surprisingly high. I expected something like 60%. However, also the bad players have 4.22, so this is not a difference to distinguish good and bad players.

9.) Total aggression (without preflop): 3.30. Here we come to the most important thing. The bad players do only have an aggression of 1.95, what is still not bad. But higher aggression leads to higher BB/100. The numbers for flop-turn-river aggression are: 4.09, 2.96, 2.15

10.) Folded to river bet: 69.24%. This is just for reference since the bad players have roughly the same number. However, there are many with a smaller number, which means that one should not call too often.

11.) CR: 0.55%. Also just for reference.

12.) WTSD and Won$at SD: 20.05 and 56.61 Players with high win rates should win often at the showdown, therefore the 56% is no surprise. However, what is important is how often they go to the showdown. The number is 20% with a range from 16-24%. 16% is a surprise since that is the weak-tight region (I am close to it with 17% and have to work on it). 20% on the other hand is a solid number.

13.) Usage of position: VPIP UTG to VPIP Button 8-22% to 20-25% Of course one should play much more hands on the button. Here the real surprise is that 3 out of the 4 heros have 21-22% VPIP UTG and 21-25% VPIP on the button. The 4th guy has 8% UTG and 25% on the button, which sounds more solid. Also interesting is that all 4 raise differently often dependent on position. One has 7% PFR UTG and at the button, one has 0.6% UTG and 10% at the button. Different styles of play lead to nearly the same VPIP and PFR in total.

Conclusion: Many Blinds Steal attempts, high overall aggression and a high number of continuation bets are important. Less important are VPIP and VPIP_SB. Well, aggression counts that are no new news. However, the exact numbers are somewhat surprising and interesting.

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