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Postby Stoneburg » Wed May 10, 2006 2:31 pm

I post in the CO and get [3h] [2c], four people see the flop and obviously I have no reads.

Flop comes [8c] [2s] [2d]

Checked to me and I bet $6 into the $4 pot... mainly because the fuggin slider sucks and I get the popup menu from PA when I try to type it in. SB who has me covered calls.

Turn is [Tc]

He checks and I check behind.

River is [Jc]

He leads for $10 into the $16 pot, I call.

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Postby stickdude » Wed May 10, 2006 2:37 pm

Why are you giving him a free card on the turn when you almost certainly have the best hand and he is far more likely to be on a draw?
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Postby KikoSanchez » Wed May 10, 2006 2:40 pm

I'm sure this is an obvious question, but why not bet the turn? Your bet looks like a steal or protecting an 8. If you don't have the player tagged as a real squeezer, he probably doesn't have 8s full. The only hand that really scares me here is A2, but he could just as likely have an overpair or something like A8. Obviously it is your first hand, so you could be running into a real loose player from the sb, with any other deuce. Still, II say bet the turn for value and follow it up or call a bet on the river.
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Postby GodlikeRoy » Wed May 10, 2006 8:44 pm

Poker is silly.

It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.

Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.

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Postby Stoneburg » Thu May 11, 2006 4:51 am

Free card for what? Flop is rainbow and not even a gutshot straight is possible. I doubt many players call a 1.5x pot size bet on a paired flop chasing backdoor draws.

The way I see it the only way he can suck out if he is behind is by hitting one of two remaining 8's. Since he played from the SB he could have pretty much anything, including a deuce. If he has a deuce he has me outkicked and I am drawing either dead or to 3 outs. If he has 88 I'm drawing to 1 out.

I don't see what I win from betting the turn. If he just has an 8 it makes it easy for him to fold it, if he has a deuce or boat I'll lose more money.
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Postby JSBC » Thu May 11, 2006 7:11 am

Played it perfect, I bet you induced a bet from the weaker hand, maybe something like J8 T8

One thing I don't understand from some posters when responding to hands. Sometimes you fail to evaluate the situation at hand. What I mean by that is this and it alludes to exactly what Stone was talking about. When a few of you piped up and said you didn't want to give a free card because of the flush draw, I don't think it makes sense here that a player would call with a backdoor flush draw on the flop. I really cant think of any two cards that are clubs that will be calling in this hand.
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Postby muszu » Thu May 11, 2006 7:33 am

very good imo
you might just made him bet his 8 there or an overpair
If he bet the amount that you would bet anyway if he checks then it's fine
he might just have 2 pair on the river but you can't take a chance in that spot to open the beting again
if there wasn't a river there wouldn't be any fish
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Postby briachek » Thu May 11, 2006 12:58 pm

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Postby Stoneburg » Thu May 11, 2006 3:46 pm

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