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Postby SNGNOOB » Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:09 pm

Call the raise or move in like this?

I thought if he had AA or KK, he would've re-raised and if he had AK, he may fold, but from my reading, he doesnt have AK because it was noted he plays AK very aggresively.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) from (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG ($7.25)
UTG+1 ($6.50)
Hero ($53.75)
MP2 ($62.50)
CO ($43.45)
Button ($89.90)
SB ($47.75)
BB ($54.60)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with QImage, QImage.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.5, 2 folds, Button calls $2.50, 2 folds, UTG+1 raises to $6.5, Hero raises to $20, Button raises to $89.9, Hero calls $33.75 (All-In).
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Postby GodlikeRoy » Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:21 pm

His limp-re-raise should indicate either AA or KK. I would just cal his raise for $4 more and play it set it or forget it. It's not usually correct to get all-in preflop with QQ at NL50 in a full ring game.
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Postby mike_m235 » Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:29 pm

You're beat. He called you from the button because he had position and wanted to stack your QQ if the flop came low. In fact, you might actually be beaten twice here, although somewhere UTG+1 didn't fold or call, so who knows what happened to him? Button has AA. MAYBE he has KK, but 80% I put him on the aces. Ship a Q.
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Postby SNGNOOB » Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm

Yeah, I hate going all in preflop with QQ unless they have like $15 max. He did indeed have KK, but I just couldnt put him on that hand. How was could I have played it to find out if my QQ was good as overpair?
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Postby mike_m235 » Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:34 pm

Your problem was you were reacting to UTG+1 while forgetting the guy acting behind you. That's really easy to do. Which is why a guy in late position with AA or KK can do that -- because he knows you think your QQ is good when he just calls it instead of reraising. Because if he reraises, and you just call, the flop comes low and you don't bet out. And you certainly don't stack off, because he reraised you, which at NL50 means KK or AA. But since you've raised and the field is already thinned, he can just smooth call with only the blinds to act. Then you'll lead a low flop, he'll raise, and you'll stack off with your QQ.

So follow this rule...repeat after me..."I will not go broke with an unimproved QQ." It will make you a happier man.
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Postby SNGNOOB » Mon Jun 12, 2006 12:19 am

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Postby Yenool » Mon Jun 12, 2006 2:36 am

It seems to me like you play very aggressive with any big pairs or top pair, so if I were playing against you I would definately try and trap you with AA or KK... maybe you opponent has noticed the same thing?

Once UTG (short stack donk I assume) limp-raises I would be worried about what the button had, I might re-raise like you to try and get it HU, but once he pushes I would have to fold.

I really like the way the guy on the button plays this hand, he basically traps you both into playing weak hands way to aggressively, you both ignore his flat call and go nuts, he then takes down a huge pot with AA or KK I assume?
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