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JJ overpair vs. good player (NL100 FR)

Postby Alchemist » Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:53 pm

Villain is a regular, plays 28/9/3.5, solid post flop and only ever seems to play one table only, winningest player in my db. He's also a card rack in this session and this is his first hand back after sitting out a round.

Crypto NL100

PF: 5 folds, MP3 (villain, $135) raises to $3.5, CO (Hero, $148, [Jh][Jc]) calls, 3 folds

Flop: [8h][4h][5d] $8.50. Villain bets $6, Hero ???

OK, I hate Jacks. First off, re-raise JJ in position or is the call OK? I will re-raise some of the time against select players. Unless I tank it up a major amount, I think this guy is calling with a wider range than you would normally see, even OOP, which would leave me playing a massive pot with a vulnerable hand. Also, I had tight players behind, so the odds of one of them calling are quite long.

Now we've got post flop, how do I now proceed? Villain CBs about 80% so I'm still none the wiser. 2 options I see here, call and see how he proceeds on the turn, or raise it up and get a bit more info.

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Postby GodlikeRoy » Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:38 pm

Poker is silly.

It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.

Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.

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Postby Pozzo » Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:52 pm

I don't think calling the flop is an option, even, or maybe especially, against a good player. Raise to $20 and villain folds AQ/TT.

I prefer a re-raise preflop. I used to hate Jacks too, but I used to play them passively. Now I play them more aggresively (closing my eyes if I have to) and they've become a more profitable hand. So I'd re-raise to $12 preflop and bet $20 on most flops.
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Postby ua1176 » Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:06 pm

i think i'd reraise preflop here to $10 or $12. 26/9 means he's getting frisky with SC's, A-x, and low PP at least some of the time. pop him back.

if i was confident in my skills...i would call the flop and play poker on later streets. he's CB'ing here with missed overcards or low/mid PP's frequently, and a whole lot of turn cards will look bad to him. you can frequently bluff-bet or bluff-raise the turn and take this pot down against a good player.

if you just want to avoid playing a big pot...raise flop to $20 and don't put another dime in afterward. if you think he's better than you are...this is a simple way to get out cheap. but probably not the most +EV.

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Postby NorthView » Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:51 pm

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Postby Alchemist » Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:32 am

Thanks guys, so far so good.

I raised the flop to $22 and he called

Turn was [Kd] ($52.50) Villain checks, Hero checks

River [3d] Villain bets $28, Hero not comfortable now
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Postby SinkRox » Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:18 pm

Ouchy that hurts.. I guess you have to fold, though you have induced a bet/bluff. And if this guy is capable of getting tricky and stealing here then maybe thats a case for why you should repop him preflop and take the lead.

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