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Postby stoni1234 » Mon May 22, 2006 11:08 pm

Need some thoughts for a theory I would love to test. After looking through 40k hands on PT all of my profit comes from PP's and the rest just equal out. I would love to play PP's only and wonder if I could pull it off. My first thought is, the blinds will eat me alive.
But I believe I can offset most of that by pushing with overpairs and stealing the many, many small pots that are checked to me. Now I know you all will say that I'll be easy to read and It won't work. I can't see that being a problem since 7 of the 10 players at $50nl and $100nl don't know what cards they play, much less what cards I play.

I'm a winning player and average around 5BB (2 tables), I'm rated an Ultra aggressor
but play very tight at around 15 vpip.

I believe I could make this work and I know I could play at least 8 tables this way.
I would also use Ice's law of 2@ 10Xraise.

Thanks for any thought's
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Pocket Pairs only

Postby TD » Wed May 24, 2006 12:42 am

First of all, I can't believe you can make a long term profit on 22-33-44. So this is going to cut you down your play even more. So now you are going to play about 5% of the hands and probably only 3% of the flops. I see a lot of players playing with single digit % of flops. Playing against them is very simple. You don't. Only with AA or KK.

Even if you could make a profit, what a terrible way to pass time. I suppose most of us need to make a living, but I would rather dig a ditch.
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Re: Pocket Pairs only

Postby GodlikeRoy » Wed May 24, 2006 5:08 am

Poker is silly.

It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.

Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.

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Re: Pocket Pairs only?

Postby WayToGo » Wed May 24, 2006 5:41 am

Taking shots, one at a time.
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Postby iceman5 » Wed May 24, 2006 6:18 am

"First of all, I can't believe you can make a long term profit on 22-33-44"

You need to rethink that statement.....because its false. Well, it may be true that you cant believe it, but small pairs can easily be played for a profit. Easier than most hands in fact.
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Postby stoni1234 » Wed May 24, 2006 6:42 am

Thanx for all the input. Did a little test run last night on party. 5 tables @ nl50. for around an hour and a half. I lost a buyin with rockets vs AK( he tripped the K, lol)
Hit two sets and managed to get most of it back. Ice was right, I was BORED TO DEATH. I also noticed that playing that tight on 5 tables, I took on more of a" passive role" post flop. Not good, because I love to fire, fire, and fold if reraised. I would have to play at least 8 tables or I would lose my mind. For more on this issue check out Black Knight's journal.
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Postby Yenool » Wed May 24, 2006 6:54 am

Anyone who is playing 15% of hands or less (as you would only playing pairs), gets an auto fold from me when they raise a pot or show any interest post flop whatsoever.... even AK, is gone.

So I kind of think this is a very see through way of playing, even big fish notice when you only play 1 hand in 16.

I also don't like small pairs and small sets, I don't have enough long term data on them yet, but so far for me anything below 55 is a losing hand.
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Postby SinkRox » Wed May 24, 2006 7:17 am

it would be going backwards in your progression as a player / skill. it would be uber lame and id love you sat at my table so I can run over you and steal 95% of your blinds, and ~85% of every raised pot you do decide to see.
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Postby GodlikeRoy » Wed May 24, 2006 7:40 am

Poker is silly.

It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.

Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.

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Postby Yenool » Wed May 24, 2006 9:04 am

Play quality cards in position. simple as that, no need to only play pairs or whatever.

I play AA-JJ with a raise.
AK-AQs with a raise.
Limping with 99-55 and KQ, -KTs, QJ/QTs in late pos.

so, guess im pretty tight.
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