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QJs in position (5/10SH)

Postby kennyg » Sun Nov 12, 2006 1:11 am

Opponent is ultra aggressive (even more so this session) he is 34/26 over 700 hands. He does not like me because i play back at him.. but he just stacked me when I reraised with AK suited.. flopped the K and he had KK in the hole. His raise in this spot could be any two cards.

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Stack sizes:
UTG: $743.75
UTG+1: $906.00
Hero: $1050.75
Button: $775.50
SB: $1421.00
BB: $2056.76

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with [Jd] [Qd]
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, Button calls, SB folds, SB folds, BB raises to $40, 2 folds, Hero calls, Button calls.

Flop: [9h] [8s] [Jc] ($165, 3 players)
BB bets $172, Hero raises to $600, Button folds, BB raises all-in $1844.76, Hero calls all-in $400.75.


I felt like I was losing after he reraised.. but was commited. Any other suggestions on how to play this hand. I guess folding preflop would be an option but I knew the button (weak/loose passive) would come along. I had position on the lagtard...
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Postby GodlikeRoy » Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:46 am

i'd raise this preflop every time. Two limpers to you? Punish them, buy the button, drive the blinds out and take initiative in the hand.

Postflop I probably play the same as you. He could easily have missed overs (unders?), 22-77, TT, 9T, TJ, etc. You're not in terrible shape to an overpair either with 8 outs.
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Postby Thxlbx » Sun Nov 12, 2006 3:58 am

Well, this is wayyyyy out of my league, but my first thought was raising preflop. It seems like the good players like yourself like to raise with suited connectors in situations like this. Can QJ suited be considered a fancy suited connector and played the same way? (or is that donkey thinking?) You flopped top pair and a gut shot straight draw, and given the size of your raise on the flop, I agree you were pretty committed. Villain might be a tad overconfident too, wanting to continue to try to push you around after he had some success against you. I don't see how you can get away from it.
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Postby Twelver » Sun Nov 12, 2006 10:03 am

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Postby Magz » Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:13 pm

What would be the play if he just would have called the 600 raise?
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Postby GodlikeRoy » Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:19 pm

Push the turn, or call his push.
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Postby shobute » Sun Nov 12, 2006 4:16 pm

I agree with Roy.

It kinda sucks that if this guy gets it all-in you're mostly going to be behind, but at least you have 9 outs.

What makes this okay is that you should get him to fold a lot, in which case you take down the pretty juicy $400 pot.
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Postby ua1176 » Tue Nov 14, 2006 12:51 am

we raise the flop if we're confident that we're going to call a push.
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Postby Stelvask » Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:59 pm

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Postby poker2006 » Tue Nov 14, 2006 7:25 pm

He might be an aggr donk, but he's overbetting the pot on that flop into 2 players !!! I think this is a fold on the flop, your hand is too weak on a very dangerous board. You only have a weak TP and a gut shot, fold.

Against a very aggr player my standard to play for stack would be I think be TPGK on a less coordinated board.
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