Is this recomended to raise with suited connectors 23s -TJs and in what situations. I just read the post called "thoughts on this hand" and it talks about the guy raising with 45s in mid pos. The guy commenting on it thought it was cool. Am I missing something.

I didn't want to hijack his tread and I would like comments more on this subject as a whole, instead of concentrating on that situation.
Thanks

There are a couple of answers to this question. First I usually only raise suited connectors from the button or LP and I usally only do it against decent players on a tight table. The goal here is to break someone. In a tight game, when you raise people think you have big cards, so when you flop two pair or a straight you have a very hidden hand. Since you are in late postion and raised preflop you will often get checked to and if big cards hit you have a good chance of taking the pot. And finally since suited connectors often flop draws, the goal is to bet the flop and try to win the pot, if you get called and you miss the turn you often will get a chance to check behind on the turn and see a free river and try to make your hand.

Can you give me what you would consider a perfect or great time to do this. Many limpers/straight up, how much to raise, etc....

First like I said, I only do this is a tight game, when I have a tight table image. The amount of limpers is less of an issue, I will raise the same amount that I would with AA or KK, since that is what I'm trying to represent on the flop.

Thaqnks I got it

Rhound... what happens in the same situation if its a small connector (ie... 23s) you raise and get reraised a decent amount preflop? Do you call or fold?
Thanks...MVP

I dont recommend doing it with 32s....your str8 posibbilites are limited.
I also dont recommend it with JTs. when you hit the flop, so will they with their QJ or whatever these fools call with.

You want a middle cards like 54s up to 98s (if youre going to do it at all).

If you get reraised a small amount, you call because they are telegraphing a big piar. They think YOU have a big pair so when the flop is T65 and you have 65s, its goodnight Irene. They think your pushing all in with KK when they have AA.


This is a pretty advanced play and I dont recommend it unless you play very well post flop, the stacks are deep, and you have a tight image.

Ice... so, for the rest of us who play OK postflop, medium stacks, and a tight image, you recommend basically ABC poker?

ABC will win the money. You can throw in one of these wierd plays now and then also though.

What I meant by deep stacks is this: I have 65s in the cutoff in a $2/$4NL game. Its folded to me. If the blinds and button all have $400, I might raise to $16 and see what happens.

If they have $150 each, I fold. If the BB has only $60, I fold. See what I mean? I need to get paid big when I hit big because it doesnt happen that often.

If i raise to $16 and the BB goes all in I have to fold. If I raise and he calls I cant really bluff the flop because he doesnt have enough behind to fold if he hits anything.

Also, If you are getting no action with your big pairs, try raising one of these little gems and showing it when everyone folds.

Rhound... thanks for the info, but you didn't answer the 2nd part... what do you do if you get reraised preflop? Do you tough it out, and then bet out the flop still , or do you cut and run?
Thanks...

Sorry I missed the second part when I was reading. What to do if someone limp raises me or raises from the blinds. That depends on how much the raise is and how much the player has behind them. Now it becomes all about what kind of odds am I getting. A limp raise or a raise from the blinds is almost always a strong hand, with a few exceptions. The good news is that you have the best possible hand to bust a big pair and if you hit it, you are going to have a hidden hand since your raised and called a reraise it looks like you have a midddle pair.

I've statred to dislike 89s because as was stated before...you lose to those bigger cards when they hit the higher straight. I'm actually more comfortable making a nut straight with something like 45,46,56...because you know they don't see that coming.

I agree with one thing here: Mix it up!

One guy on two of my tables last night was a much better player than average at the $50 tables. Had a big stack at both tables. He was preflop raising regularly. I started keeping track of what he showed down after he raised, and how much he raised. He made preflop minraises several times, and every time he made it to shodown after a minraise, he had suited connectors. He did it from EP as well as LP. I think it was a rule for him to always do that!

Now that's a tell. And it's an ugly play anyway, to be doing it regularly. I'm hoping to play with him some more and bust him good.