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River bluff raise standard? ($400 NL FR)

Postby k3nt » Sun Nov 11, 2007 9:59 pm

Hero has [As][Qd] OTB. Folds to CO who has been pretty active preflop and raises it to
$14, hero reraises to $40, blinds fold, CO calls. Villain starts hand with $324, Hero covers.

Pot $86, flop [5c][5h][4d]. Villain checks, Hero bets $66, Villain calls.

Pot $218, turn [Kc]. Villain checks, Hero thinks for a while and checks.

Pot $218, river [Jd]. Villain bets $29. :shock: Hero is putting Villain on a medium pocket pair. Hero thinks and thinks and raises to $150.

Standard? Spew?
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Postby Cooper » Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:50 am

Yup, I think I would shove turn and I would play AK, AA, KK just the same.
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Postby The Golden 1 » Mon Nov 12, 2007 7:03 am

Yeah the turn check here seems really bad.
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Postby NorthView » Mon Nov 12, 2007 7:21 am

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Postby Rhound50 » Mon Nov 12, 2007 12:53 pm

You need to make your bluffs add up and this one really doesn't. What hand are you trying to represent here? What hand do you check the turn with here that the jack helps on the river? The turn check and river raise looks a lot like a missed draw especially when the river cant really improve your hand, if you think he has a middle pair what hand is he supposed to put you on? You river a J with AJ and you aren't raising, if you have KJ you bet the turn. JJ you probably fire the turn again, the only hand that you might check behind is KK.
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Postby k3nt » Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:46 pm

If I had AA I would often check behind on the turn ... standard pot control move. Either he flopped a huge hand (44 or 5x) or he didn't. If he didn't then it's not like I'm scared of any big draws out there, the board is rainbow. I suppose 76 is possible, but I'm not putting it high on the list of possibilities.

Since I would often check behind on the turn with AA, I would do the same with AK.

I would absolutely be raising this craptacular river bet with AA/AK, as well as KQ KJ, probably KT, as well as KK JJ of course.

I think a non-shove looks stronger than a shove (to a lot of people) and it costs me 60 or 70 bucks less. Maybe it sucks, I don't know.

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Zeestein: please tell me more about this 1/3 pot bet on turn concept. When does it work, and why?

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Anyway, he did fold, and I felt awfully good about myself. Good to put myself through the criticism process though. Thanks for all the comments.
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Postby hard2tel » Mon Nov 12, 2007 5:23 pm

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Postby iceman5 » Tue Nov 13, 2007 12:50 pm

Even if you normally check behind on the turn with AA (which is horrible ) nobody else would, so no villain is going to believe thats what you have here.

I really hate this size river raise but it will work some percentage of the time...mainly when he has AK / AQ.
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