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KK-set deep, easy river fold ?? [200 $ 5H]

Postby Electrolux » Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:51 am

I am playing against this really loose guy, playing something like 60/20, but fairly OK postflop, and relatively aggressive. He has also been drawing out/getting lucky a lot and has a huge stack. I have caught him bluffing before. Example:
He raises to 7, I call with JTs in the BB (and one more call), flop is 69T with ad FD. I check call a 15 bet, other guy is out. Turn is a Q making it a double FD. Check/Check. River is a 4 not making the flush. I lead 1/3 of the pot, he raises to 3 times my bet. I think and call. He had 77. Maybe not that well played by me, but still.

To the hand:

I have 475 UTG and limp with [Ks] [Kh], CO rasies to 8, villain calls in the SB with a 655 stack. I raise to 28, only villain calls. ( I know that the limp/raise is questionable, but very aggressive table...)

Flop:[4s] [Qs] [5d] (pot 62)
Villain check calls my 46 bet

Turn [Kc] (pot 154)
Villaind check calls my 132 bet

River [Ts] (pot 418)
Villain puts me all in for my remaining 270ish. I am getting 2.5:1 I think.

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Postby iceman5 » Sat Apr 07, 2007 12:25 pm

I think I have to call against this guy. If he caught the flush, its his lucky day.

His range is pretty wide here I think.
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Postby Triple B » Sat Apr 07, 2007 2:49 pm

I call. If he caught his flush you bet enough on the turn that you don't really lose any sklansky bucks here anyway. He's bluffing here a lot too.
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Postby black_knight6 » Sat Apr 07, 2007 6:02 pm

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Postby Danhdan » Sat Apr 07, 2007 6:37 pm

"Million dollar play, ten cent finish."

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Postby ua1176 » Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:34 pm

i think you have to call here.

even if you pay him off every time he has a flush....it is -EV (albeit not hugely so) for him to chase his 7 outs (assuming he gets himself stacked when the river is the [5s]).

add in the times he has a set, 2 pair, bluf/whatever, and this is a must-call.
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Postby GodlikeRoy » Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:37 pm

Poker is silly.

It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.

Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.

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Postby Electrolux » Sun Apr 08, 2007 1:27 am

Thanks for your input.

To my defence on the flop, I rarely limp-reraise at all 5 handed, but every time I had limped this guy had raised me (even OOP), so I was hoping for a situation where he would do it again and I could just call him down. But I didn't want to be three people in the hand, hence the limp-reraise. Which was too small.

I almost timed out before calling.
He had [3s] [5s] (so he actually had the full 8 outs)

I just wanted to check if you guys would find a fold there. And now I have to go out and see what I can buy for my Sklansky dollars... :?
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Postby black_knight6 » Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:42 am

FWIW, unless it's against a competent opponent, they're still willin to pay off the limp rr with TP+.
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