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Set vs. a good TAG (100 6-max)

Postby Jarren » Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:54 am

This is an interesting hand against a not so typical Villian, sorry in advance for the long post and the lack of hand history (at work)

History


I have been at this table for about 45 minutes. Normally I wouldn't play a table like this one but I sat down and it was juicy and then dried up to what we have now. I decided I wanted to play against a couple of the players at this table. This table is very tight and includes one of the top 3 players in my database (3 to my left) (22/13 - V$IP/Raise). 2 to my left is another solid player though he is looser (31/10) and one to my left is a an uber tighter set miner type (12/5).

In the last half hour i have been playing very loose. At one point I limped or raised 15 hands in a row and 19 out of 20. However despite this I have been able to trap one of these guys in a hand and luckily I have avoided being trapped, so my image is probably not great. I am down about $30 mostly to short stacks who keep coming on, I lose to them then they loose the money to the TAG across the table


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The Villian in question is the TAG 3 to my left. I have over 350 hands on him so I assume he has that many on me. He is in the top three of the best players in my database and he is hard to trap and very smart. He is very capable of folding top pair or an overpair and he is not above making a move at a pot

ok, on to the hand in question
Oh effective stacks. I have about $120, Villian has $220

Table is 5 handed. everyone FOLDS (fixed sorry) to the TAG who raises to $3.50 on the button (a standard raise for him). SB folds and I call in the BB with 2[s] 2[h]

flop comes 2[c] 9[h] 3[c]

I lead for $4 and he min raises me. Now I put villians range on any PP, any two cards T or higher, and Ax down to about 7-8. However the min raise is REALLY ODD. I have never ever seen this guy min raise so I have no idea what to make of it. It could mean AA or it could mean crap, I have no idea.

Question #1: Do you just call or re-raise? I figured if I re-raised he would fold almost for sure and I wasn't too worried about the flush draw.
Question #2: I led for $4 into a $8.00 pot, is that too small?

I decide to just call

The turn is a 4[d]

I check, he bets $10 into a $20 pot. I check raise to $40

Question #3: How is my action? I didn't want to lead again but I can't let him off cheap. I am 80% sure I am ahead here. Is there a better line?

ok I will post more later on this hand.

I think the biggest mistake I made so far was the flop bet. I think if I led for a full pot it may have been better, however I never expected a min raise. I expected a fold or larger raise from him

thoughts?
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Postby Stoneburg » Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:00 am

Here's how I would have played it:

Lead with a slight overbet, like $12. If he raises, you push. If he flat calls you check/raise the turn all-in.

In a raised pot HU I will take bottom set to the felt every time, if he has a bigger set, good for him, I'm looking to get as much money in as possible.
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Postby GodlikeRoy » Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:18 am

Poker is silly.

It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.

Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.

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Postby Jarren » Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:28 am

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Postby Tatarana » Wed Oct 11, 2006 9:16 am

My initial plan would be :

F:$10 -T: $30 - R:$80

If he is a good LAG, and with position, you will not make money sandbagging.
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Postby Zmej » Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:03 am

There is a flush draw on the board, there is also a possible straight draw (yes I call raises sometimes with 45s) so I would play it like a draw. He is a regular, and I prefer to play my draws and made hands strong against them. Lead 3/4 pot, if he raises push.

As played I would 3bet flop big. One more reason to try and put money in on flop, is that it will be much easier for him to let go of an overpair like JJ, if A falls on turn and you would lead.
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Postby Zmej » Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:13 am

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