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Postby Smokin'Al » Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:43 pm

Villain got all his money before I arrived at the table. I've not been at the table long, and have been active, but nothing too outrageous.

River: Easy call? Easy fold?

(On Party games, I usually expect an aggressive player to check-raise the flop with an ace, for those who don't play there.)

Probably I should have raised the turn ... I was trying to induce a bluff or get value on a non-heart river against a weaker flush FWIW

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) from (Format: Bet The Pot)

Button ($545.10)
SB ($391.10)
BB ($776.10)
UTG ($737.80)
Hero ($468.30)

Preflop: Hero is MP with [Kh], [8h]. SB posts a blind of $2.
1 fold, Hero raises to $14, 2 folds, BB calls $10.

Flop: ($30) [Ad], [4h], [Th] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $22, BB calls $22.

Turn: ($74) [2h] (2 players)
BB bets $40, Hero calls $40.

River: ($154) [9h] (2 players)
BB calls $700.10 (All-In), $390 or so for hero to call...
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Postby gsdavid » Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:54 pm

its dificult to say..he could do that with Qh or Jh but his turn lead is kinda fishy(he could bet FD, thinking that his draw is good now(he might do it with A.. and open pushing bluffs are not that common, at least at my limits(100s)..i wanna hear what others say but u've invested into this pot some 75$ and its 400$ more to call..u need to be right here a lot of times to make a call..to make it worse, he might put u on ace since u betted the flop so there are 1/3 chances u have Ah..u showed somewhat strenght and that push does not smell like a large bluff..he could have a weak ace(read depended...) and just trying to get to showdown..i wanna see what xas and others will say on this one
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Postby Zmej » Tue Sep 05, 2006 2:36 am

I would fold river. I think villian has [Ah] weak kicker, so he was a bit unsure on flop, fearing that you have him outkicked, while on turn he picked up some nut outs.
And raise turn, most of the players are unable to let go of an A no matter the board.
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Postby T-Rod » Tue Sep 05, 2006 6:16 am

I think I fold because:

1) Contrary to other sites, I think that the river "Prima Push" at party is actually the nuts more often than not.

2) I can easily see him playing A[h] Jx, etc. like this.

3) If he's really a donk bluffing this, then you'll easily have a chance to take chips from him later.

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Postby GodlikeRoy » Tue Sep 05, 2006 10:26 am

Poker is silly.

It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.

Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.

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Postby Stoneburg » Tue Sep 05, 2006 10:39 am

Raise that turn like a motherfvcker, make it closer to $200.

On the river I fold, his play is in line with the [Ah].
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Postby Smokin'Al » Tue Sep 05, 2006 7:18 pm

Yeah ... just checking my turn call / river call was as horrible as I feared.

Yuck! Still can't work out what possessed me not to raise that turn...
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Postby Twelver » Thu Sep 07, 2006 5:35 am

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