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Postby bdon22 » Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:52 pm

I think I should've raised this up to at least $7 preflop. I actually didn't realize he was sitting on $80 until after I already 3-bet him. That aside, is this standard?

$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at

Stacks:
UTG ($28.00)
UTG+1 ($80.00)
CO ($50.10)
Hero ($99.90)
SB ($91.70)
BB ($50.60)

Pre-flop: ($0.75, 6 players) Hero is BTN [Kd][Ac]
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $1.75, 1 fold, Hero raises to $6, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls $4.25

Flop: [2d][7h][Ad] ($12.75, 2 players)
UTG+1 bets $9, Hero raises to $28, UTG+1 goes all-in $74, Hero calls $46

Turn: [Qd] ($160.75, 2 players)

River: [5s] ($160.75, 2 players)

Final Pot: $160.75
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Postby dropthe72 » Thu Mar 27, 2008 2:43 am

i mean, you have the k of diamonds, which kinda makes a fd alot more unlikely. no straight draw on the board... he raised and smooth called your 3bet preflop. this smells alot like a set. i'd say this dude has aces almost never, but sevens or deuces are like the biggest part of his range for four betting here, i think. i think you have to muck to the flop three bet allin, as deep as you are, given the action.
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Postby Danhdan » Thu Mar 27, 2008 2:00 pm

This should be in NL Cash Games forum. I don't think it's LC.

Call the flop I think. I don't want to scare him away, and he's mostly drawing slim here if he has a weaker Ace. I don't think he has a set, so I want him to keep betting. I don't think he shows up with diamonds all that often, and we have a redraw to the nuts if he does.

I don't like the flop raise.
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Postby phytopath » Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:48 pm

Yeah, your flop raise is basically saying you are felting your TPTK here, if that was your plan then raise away, which is pretty fine since it is a 3-bet pot, but you did make the 3-bet a shade small considering you are reasonably deep here.

There is still alot of value in raising the flop here, AQ, AJ are probably in his 3-bet calling range and you get value from them. Not sure what else is in his range since you don't mention any reads.

But all in all, I don't really mind felting TPTK ever in a 3-bet pot, obviously it is alot easier when you aren't quite so deep.
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Postby black_knight6 » Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:49 pm

Totally standard...your pf 3b was totally fine.
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Postby dropthe72 » Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:07 pm

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Postby dropthe72 » Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:12 pm

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Postby shamdonk » Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:53 pm

Be glad your opponents refuse to fold; if they didn't, you just might go broke.


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Postby dropthe72 » Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:34 am

i resemble that remark.
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Postby iceman5 » Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:30 am

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