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UGH..I really hate how i played this hand 600$ NL 6max

Postby gsdavid » Sat Nov 17, 2007 6:41 am

Villain in this hand is your typical nit that plays 15/12 but at same time im not sure what his utg limp means. Its most likely PP and sometimes AJ/AQ? So my image is even worse than usual, i was playing some 21/19 and trying to steal every pot when i was sure that villain had only 1 pair hand..Even if it meant 3 barreling. Anyhow..So this guy was getting pissed off, he CR me on turn on other table when i was double barreling him and since i hand no pair no outs i just let it go but i wrote in chat nice bluff and he showed it(we were btw 2 stacks deep there). Anyhow, my PF raise here is somewhat marginal, but I am forced to do raise these hands especially against nits that limp utg to protect my big pairs from being set mined.
$3/$6 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at

Stacks:
UTG ($2005.70)
CO ($660.00)
BTN ($229.00)
Hero ($689.25)
BB ($1019.00)

Pre-flop: ($9, 5 players) Hero is SB [Jd][Qd]
2 folds, BTN calls $6, Hero raises to $33, BB calls $30, BTN folds
t part.
Flop: [8d][Kd][Qs] ($78, 2 players)
Hero bets $60, BB calls $60
So this is a nice flop..I am willing to throw my stack in there..I'm only behind 88 and he shouldn't be able to have a higher draw since i hold both Q and J of diamonds(so no AQd AJd possible besides ATd so we can assume i have NUT FD. And now he just calls. This is mega weakness, I suspect a draw, maybe a stubborn PP such as JJ or TT but i think he should be raising those UTG, while my range has hit this flop hard for most part so he should be folding most PP's.
Turn: [As] ($198, 2 players)
Hero bets $135, BB goes all-in $923, Hero goes all-in $458.25
Ok..and now all hell brakes loose.. This is in my opinion the 1st mistake I make.. actually im not sure..I cant put him on a hand. On flop im sure he doesn't have two pair or a set. If im considering the possibility that he is just calling here to bluff me or has a lower draw I should plan to CRAI turn. However, I decide to lead(more like donkbet) because im not sure if im valuebetting or bluffing here. So i bet and see the worst case scenario..He pushes. Given the action he should have here AQ JT and random bluff maybe 10%-20% of time? Only 2 hands that beat me are JT and AQ and both hands are unlikely since I hold 1 face card for each combination. So I need to call 458 to win 928 which is close to 1:2 So i need some 33% equity while I only have 24-25% vs AQs, JTs. So i need him to bluff here 8% of time. Given all of this. how would you play turn. C/C or CRAI? Give the above range we are WA/WB since we beat bluffs and are behind 2 pair of AQ and nuts of JTs
River: [7c] ($1714.25, 2 players)

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Would betting 5+1 for each limper in SB and BB be over excessive? Or even 5,5+1? I know its only 3$ difference but still..3$ here means he will usually need to earn 50$ more post flop w set
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Postby hard2tel » Sat Nov 17, 2007 11:35 am

"But meh, what I lack for in talent and intelligence I make up for in lack of ambition." -- Oatmealforxmas

- make more than xaston and roy
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Postby gsdavid » Sat Nov 17, 2007 8:16 pm

Yeah that was a mistake..the second i fired turn I was like..shit...I autofired it without even looking at turn card..In retrospect i like actually betting turn because he cant have here better than AQ so I should make him fold it on turn or in worst case scenario i have a lot of outs if turn is any low card. Betting turn with this turn card is a mistake, but otherwise i think i should bet most turns since really he cant have better than Qx here..sometimes KJs(again not likely cause I have J) and AK he is raising here like 100% of time.
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Postby RedBarracuda » Sat Nov 17, 2007 9:41 pm

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(6:35:59 PM) hard2tel45s: boxing?
(6:36:06 PM) giantgrwth: Yea
(6:36:14 PM) hard2tel45s: sweet
(6:36:30 PM) giantgrwth: He was my best friend too, lol
(6:36:48 PM) hard2tel45s: well u were in the crazy bin bro
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Postby RedBarracuda » Sat Nov 17, 2007 9:42 pm

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(6:35:48 PM) giantgrwth: I once beat up an attempted murderer, 25% true story
(6:35:59 PM) hard2tel45s: boxing?
(6:36:06 PM) giantgrwth: Yea
(6:36:14 PM) hard2tel45s: sweet
(6:36:30 PM) giantgrwth: He was my best friend too, lol
(6:36:48 PM) hard2tel45s: well u were in the crazy bin bro
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Postby gsdavid » Sat Nov 17, 2007 10:03 pm

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Postby k3nt » Sun Nov 18, 2007 12:27 am

There are donks at every level I've played, certainly at $400. Tonight at the $400s I ran into one of the worst players I've ever seen. He kept getting lucky so it took him quite a while to finally bust. I was lucky enough to be the one to take his last $400ish.
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