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Postby Yenool » Wed Jun 14, 2006 2:48 am

***** Pacific Hand History for Game 53761924 *****
$0.05/$0.1 Blinds No Limit Hold'em - *** 06 14 09:36:03 2006

Table Lethal Injection (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 10: mcfrost ( $8.38 )
Seat 1: cjsk1995 ( $4.05 )
Seat 4: 08ALLIN ( $60.3 )
Seat 5: bonbell ( $24.04 )
Seat 6: jabina ( $9 )
Seat 7: bigmac10 ( $23.61 )
Seat 8: Hickkok ( $10 )
Seat 9: Yenool ( $10 )
bigmac10 posts small blind [$0.05].
Hickkok posts big blind [$0.1].

** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Yenool [7c] [7s]
Yenool calls [$0.1].
mcfrost calls [$0.1].
cjsk1995 folds.
08ALLIN calls [$0.1].
bonbell calls [$0.1].
jabina calls [$0.1].
bigmac10 calls [$0.05].
Hickkok checks

** Dealing Flop ** [8s], [3c], [7h] ($0.70c)
bigmac10 checks.
Hickkok checks.
Yenool bets [$0.5].
mcfrost calls [$0.5].
08ALLIN calls [$0.5].
bonbell folds.
jabina calls [$0.5].
bigmac10 calls [$0.5].
Hickkok calls [$0.5].

** Dealing Turn ** [Qs] ($3.70)
bigmac10 checks.
Hickkok checks.
Yenool bets [$3.6].
mcfrost folds.
08ALLIN folds.
jabina calls [$3.6].
bigmac10 folds.
Hickkok folds.

** Dealing River ** [4d] ($10.90)
Yenool .... ??

The straight card hits and these players are donks, what should I do?
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Postby GodlikeRoy » Wed Jun 14, 2006 2:52 am

MALLIN. I also bet $1 on that flop. The ONLY hand you're afraid of here is 56, you beat 87 83 8Q 73 33 Q7 Q3 99 TT JJ 9T 89 8T 8J 8K 8A 79 7T 7J 7K 7A and pretty much any other hand a donk can hold at this point.
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Postby Danhdan » Wed Jun 14, 2006 2:55 am

How dare you not bet the pot on the flop. BTP the pot on the flop and everyone still calls with their overs and now the pot is 4.90 going to the turn which is sweet. Then you can bet 3.6 on the turn or $4, and opponent calls and is almost committed to the river. This migh be the safest board for a set of 7's I've seen in a while. You pay off QQ, 88, and 56 every single time at this level. Push the river, the most your opponent has is Q8. Might just be a naked queen.

Anyway, that flop action makes me crack the hell up.
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Postby Yenool » Wed Jun 14, 2006 2:57 am

Another hand, probably the MOST weak-tight-donkish I have EVER played a hand.

The previous hand I raised 6xbb with AKo and missed, so I didn't want to raise it up again, so I decided to limp for a set...

The big stack doing the betting is a total FISH, I actually have him marked as someone I look to sit down with, he sucks out constantly and then pays off the rocks.

***** Pacific Hand History for Game 53762245 *****
$0.05/$0.1 Blinds No Limit Hold'em - *** 06 14 09:47:35 2006
Table Lethal Injection (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 10: mcfrost ( $4.41 )
Seat 1: cjsk1995 ( $2.85 )
Seat 2: test125 ( $17.75 )
Seat 3: Buggsb ( $9.65 )
Seat 4: 08ALLIN ( $49 )
Seat 5: bonbell ( $22.81 )
Seat 6: jabina ( $6.74 )
Seat 7: bigmac10 ( $30.12 )
Seat 9: Yenool ( $14.75 )
08ALLIN posts small blind [$0.05].
bonbell posts big blind [$0.1].
** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to Yenool [Td] [Tc]

jabina calls [$0.1].
bigmac10 calls [$0.1].
Yenool calls [$0.1].
mcfrost calls [$0.1].
cjsk1995 calls [$0.1].
test125 folds.
Buggsb calls [$0.1].
08ALLIN calls [$0.05].
bonbell checks.

** Dealing Flop ** [Js], [9s], [Th] ($0.80c)

08ALLIN bets [$0.1].
bonbell folds.
jabina folds.
bigmac10 raises [$0.3].
Yenool calls [$0.3].
mcfrost folds.
cjsk1995 folds.
Buggsb calls [$0.3].
08ALLIN calls [$0.2].

** Dealing Turn ** [2h] ($2)

08ALLIN checks.
bigmac10 bets [$0.5].
Yenool calls [$0.5].
Buggsb folds.
08ALLIN calls [$0.5].

** Dealing River ** [Qh] ($3.50)

08ALLIN checks.
bigmac10 bets [$0.5].
Yenool calls [$0.5].
08ALLIN calls [$0.5].

** Summary **
bigmac10 shows [Ks] [6d] ].
Yenool mucks.
08ALLIN mucks.
bigmac10 collected [$4.75].

I played this whole hand scared because I was absolutely convinced someone had KQ, god knows why because I never raised to find if I was ahead or behind..... Instead I was just calling for the board to pair up, ffs, then I call the river bet? WTF is that... please feel free to bitch at me on that hand. - I have just slapped myself for the way I played that hand... god he is a total fish, I could have pushed the flop and he would have freaking called me.

UGHHHHHH WHY AM I A WEAK TIGHT B***H?
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Postby MHFlush » Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:31 am

First hand:
I would check-raise all in. If you bet out he may fold, but if you check there is a high possibility that he will bet with an inferior hand.

Second hand:

You have to reraise the flop. There are so many, many drawing possibilities.
At the turn a blank hits and here you have to put as much pressure against your opponents as possible, raise, raise, raise.
At the river you have to call a small bet, this I like.

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