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Postby devil_Ax » Fri Aug 25, 2006 1:21 pm

i had KK preflop

**** Hand History for Game 5025171889 *****
$25 NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, August 25, 13:44:27 ET 2006
Table Table 107982 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 2: Towi79 ( $40.15 )
Seat 3: markovka333 ( $18.72 )
Seat 5: guastacalda ( $26.90 )
Seat 6: homers_butt ( $12.99 )
Seat 1: axel25111 ( $26.05 )
homers_butt posts small blind [$0.10].
axel25111 posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to axel25111 [ Kh Kd ]
Towi79 raises [$0.75].
markovka333 raises [$1.25].
guastacalda folds.
homers_butt folds.
axel25111 raises [$1.50].
Towi79 calls [$1].
markovka333 calls [$0.50].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ks, Qd, Ac ]
axel25111 bets [$3].
Towi79 calls [$3].
markovka333 is all-In.
axel25111 calls [$13.97].
Towi79 calls [$13.97].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2d ]
axel25111 checks.
Towi79 checks.
** Dealing River ** [ 5s ]
axel25111 checks.
Towi79 checks.
axel25111 shows [ Kh, Kd ] three of a kind, kings.
Towi79 doesn't show [ Qs, Qc ] three of a kind, queens.
markovka333 shows [ Tc, Jc ] a straight, ten to ace.
markovka333 wins $54.26 from the main pot with a straight, ten to ace.
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Postby wreck27 » Fri Aug 25, 2006 2:12 pm

“The real things to know is that folks will stand to lose more than they will to win. That’s the most important percentage there is. I mean, if they lose, they’re willin’ to lose everything. If they win, they’re usually satisfied to win enough to pay for dinner and a show. The best gamblers know that.” - Pug Pearson
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Postby Danhdan » Fri Aug 25, 2006 3:15 pm

Everyone above me wrote everything I was thinking. The combination of your mistakes made this hand a disaster. At the very least you should have $14+ in front of you courtesy of $7+ bucks from Towi's call of your all-in.
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Postby devil_Ax » Fri Aug 25, 2006 4:24 pm

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Postby Stelvask » Fri Aug 25, 2006 4:40 pm

Ok. hand 1. First of all, like everyones saying, raise more. never, ever, ever. under any circumstances, for whatever reason, in anysituation, min-reraise preflop. if you continue to do this, i promise you, you will go broke.
let me say this one more time, because this is a very very important mistake that a lot of novices make. NEVER MIN RERAISE PREFLOP.


Now that we've taken care of that, why are you checking down second set on that board? you need to be putting more money in the pot. this guy has already put $14 in the pot on the flop. what does that tell you? it tells you he likes his hand. he's not putting $14 in with 93o here. he's putitng $14 in with a big hand. you have second set, for the third nuts. You need to be putting in the rest of your chips on this turn.

Also, the reason you were beat by JT here is because of your preflop raise. If you had made a real raise, JT would likely have folded, and you would have stacked the guy with QQ.

Onto hand 2:
i don't understand what you're doing in the second hand. You overbet the pot on the flop, but then underbet it on the turn. That doesn't even make sense. there is no reason for you to be overbetting the pot. Yes, you got called by an awful hand, but overbetting here is going to lose you a *lot* of money in the long run. The pots $1.60, if you want to make a real bet, then bet $1.60. On the turn your bet should be closer to $5 if you think you have the best hand against someone drawing.

On the river your check is fine. your opponent is a fish. he called all that way with trash, got lucky, and never even bet.
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Postby Stelvask » Sat Aug 26, 2006 11:14 am

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Postby Stoneburg » Sat Aug 26, 2006 11:48 am

You don't want to get flush and straight draws out, you want them to pay as much as possible to stay in.

If the pot is $5 and my opponent will call $6 with a flush draw, I'm betting $6 not more. I make more money from him chasing than from him folding. As long as I don't pay him off too much...
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Postby devil_Ax » Sat Aug 26, 2006 3:29 pm

ok experts.

what about this?? i dont think i bet so small here, but what do u think?

i was afraid of the flush, but i tryed to make him pay to get it.


any feedback?

Texas Hold'em $0.25-$0.50 NL (real money), hand #906,865,160
Table KUMD2B's HE, 26 Aug 2006 6:28 PM ET

Seat 3: sylvesterD ($8.20 in chips)
Seat 4: betyar46 ($11.30 in chips)
Seat 5: mazonedog ($25.10 in chips)
Seat 6: LoseToTheRiv ($28.00 in chips)
Seat 8: italiano94 ($9.25 in chips)
Seat 9: axeltrading [ 3H,3S ] ($61.70 in chips)
Seat 10: Hevone ($29.80 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
sylvesterD posts blind ($0.15), betyar46 posts blind ($0.25).

PRE-FLOP
mazonedog calls $0.25, LoseToTheRiv calls $0.25, italiano94 calls $0.25, axeltrading calls $0.25, Hevone calls $0.25, sylvesterD calls $0.10, betyar46 checks.

FLOP [board cards JS,3D,10S ]
sylvesterD checks, betyar46 checks, mazonedog bets $0.25, LoseToTheRiv folds, italiano94 folds, axeltrading bets $1.65, Hevone folds, sylvesterD folds, betyar46 calls $1.65, mazonedog calls $1.40.

TURN [board cards JS,3D,10S,KC ]
betyar46 checks, mazonedog checks, axeltrading bets $6, betyar46 bets $9.40 and is all-in, mazonedog folds, axeltrading calls $3.40.

RIVER [board cards JS,3D,10S,KC,8S ]

SHOWDOWN
betyar46 shows [ 7S,9S ]
axeltrading shows [ 3H,3S ]
betyar46 wins $25.

SUMMARY
Dealer: Hevone
Pot: $25.50, (including rake: $0.50)
sylvesterD loses $0.25
betyar46 bets $11.30, collects $25, net $13.70
mazonedog loses $1.90
LoseToTheRiv loses $0.25
italiano94 loses $0.25
axeltrading loses $11.30
Hevone loses $0.25
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Postby PokerWolf » Sun Aug 27, 2006 9:44 am

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