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What to do here on the turn?

Postby kennyg » Sat Mar 26, 2005 11:05 pm

I had this guy pinned as a major calling station. I had taken some money from him earlier with the AQ hand I posted earlier. Here is the link to that hand forum/viewtopic.php?t=2229

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed)

saw flop|saw showdown

MP3 ($496.55)
CO ($195)
Button ($199.60)
SB ($225.60)
Hero ($286.90)
UTG ($191.35)
UTG+1 ($209.55)
MP1 ($125.90)
MP2 ($197.10)

Preflop: Hero is BB with [4c], [Ac].
UTG+1 calls $2, 1 fold, MP2 calls $2, 3 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($8) [5d], [2c], [Jc] (5 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $10, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls $10, SB folds.

Turn: ($28) [3c] (2 players)
Hero bets $20, MP2 raises to $40,

Now what do you guys suggest I do here? I have the nuts. Results later.
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Postby Mad Genius » Sun Mar 27, 2005 12:10 am

I would pop back to 80. It looks like he was drawing to a lower flush and got there. If he calls, push in the rest on the river, or obviously call a push.
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Postby Rhound50 » Sun Mar 27, 2005 12:13 am

Mg is right here, IMHO. If you just call here, it you are going to have to value bet the river, or take a big chance checking and hoping to get in a check raise. Build the pot now, then you have him pot committed that he has to call a bigger bet on the river.
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Re: What to do here on the turn?

Postby rdale » Sun Mar 27, 2005 4:26 am

What you want to happen here especially against a calling station, and something I sometimes fail to do, is raise enough to either get him to push or pot commited to a value bet on the river.

He has about $150 left after raising it up $40 (it is late and i feel math challenged)? If you make it a smooth $100 now he isn't getting away for $50 on the river and may push into the nuts on his own at the turn.

If he is a good calling station you can go ahead and bet his stack now, I like the lead, get raised move in approach with calling stations the do call a lot with just the straight or some weird two pair a lot. I think he very likely has K [c] Jx and won't be able to get away from top pair second nut draw now and might get away from a beat flush that a river [c] scares him. If he is a horrible calling station he just filled a gutshot and might have the 6[c] to go with it, and will call any bet now too.

The point is get the most in now while he is willing to be active, and before the board pairs and you start to out think yourself. If there is only $50 left to call and the board does pair you pretty much have too, as you will be getting about 7:1 on the call if you attempt to check it down, and the same goes for if you push into any river card.

I hope it worked out and he gave up more action!
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Postby Yogadude » Sun Mar 27, 2005 11:38 am

This is a nice situation to be in holding the nuts and having a guy raise you with one card to go. There are many different ways to play this hand. No matter how you play it I am a believer in getting the money in there on the turn instead of trying to trap him on the river. I would re-raise $40-$60 more and then bet $100 or just push it in on the river. If he has a set or a smaller flush and is a bad player you will probably get paid off. As a side note, if another club comes on the river it kind of kills your hand and then I would bet around $25 on the river just so I could get paid off.

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Postby kennyg » Sun Mar 27, 2005 2:14 pm

I moved all-in and the guy thought for a little bit and folded.
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