Generally, you want to wait till 5th street to raise, as it commits more people with marginal hands. I don't want to eliminate the second guy in the hand. I tend to raise more with low rolled hands, because you are more worried about someone pairing their door card. Natch
PokerStars Game #14167065921: 7 Card Stud Limit ($2/$4) - 2007/12/28 - 22:09:58 (ET)
Table 'Geraldina III' 8-max
Seat 1: paigecammy ($15.25 in chips)
Seat 2: hopefi22 ($113 in chips)
Seat 3: Vojaz ($39.50 in chips)
Seat 4: Worf21 ($46.50 in chips)
Seat 5: charities ($141.25 in chips)
Seat 6: trentb007 ($76.50 in chips)
Seat 7: Juskimo ($165.75 in chips)
Seat 8: didi350002 ($98.50 in chips)
paigecammy: posts the ante $0.25
hopefi22: posts the ante $0.25
Vojaz: posts the ante $0.25
Worf21: posts the ante $0.25
charities: posts the ante $0.25
trentb007: posts the ante $0.25
Juskimo: posts the ante $0.25
didi350002: posts the ante $0.25
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to paigecammy
Dealt to hopefi22
Dealt to Vojaz
Dealt to Worf21
Dealt to charities
Dealt to trentb007
Dealt to Juskimo [Qs Qd Qh]
Dealt to didi350002
hopefi22: brings in for $1
Vojaz: folds
Worf21: folds
charities: folds
trentb007: calls $1
Juskimo: calls $1
didi350002: folds
paigecammy: raises $1 to $2
hopefi22: folds
trentb007: calls $1
Juskimo: calls $1
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to paigecammy
Dealt to trentb007
Dealt to Juskimo [Qs Qd Qh]
Juskimo: checks
paigecammy: bets $2
trentb007: calls $2
Juskimo: calls $2
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to paigecammy [Jc 7h]
Dealt to trentb007 [8c 5d]
Dealt to Juskimo [Qs Qd Qh 6c]
paigecammy: bets $4
trentb007: calls $4
Juskimo: raises $4 to $8
paigecammy: calls $4
trentb007: calls $4
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to paigecammy [Jc 7h Kh]
Dealt to trentb007 [8c 5d 9h]
Dealt to Juskimo [Qs Qd Qh 6c 4h]
paigecammy: bets $3 and is all-in
trentb007: calls $3
Juskimo: raises $1 to $4
trentb007: calls $1
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to Juskimo [Qs Qd Qh 6c 4h 3s]
trentb007: checks
Juskimo: bets $4
trentb007: folds
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Juskimo: shows [Qs Qd Qh 6c 4h 3s Kc] (three of a kind, Queens)
Juskimo collected $2 from side pot
paigecammy: mucks hand
Juskimo collected $46 from main pot
Juskimo is sitting out
Juskimo has returned
Juskimo is sitting out
Juskimo has returned
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $50 Main pot $46. Side pot $2. | Rake $2
Seat 1: paigecammy mucked [Tc Js Jc 7h Kh Th Kd]
Seat 2: hopefi22 folded on the 3rd Street
Seat 3: Vojaz folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Worf21 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 5: charities folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 6: trentb007 folded on the River
Seat 7: Juskimo showed [Qs Qd Qh 6c 4h 3s Kc] and won ($48) with three of a kind, Queens
Seat 8: didi350002 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Unfortunately, in the first hand it gets checked to me on all of the last streets, removing my opportunity to raise. You really hope that they continue to lead into you and you can get them to commit once the bet increases. There are a lot of marginal hands that will call the smaller bets on 3rd and 4th that will put in one bet and then fold.