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Postby euri10 » Tue May 03, 2005 2:45 am

Hey,
This is not a bad beat complain, but I wonder if you would have played it the same way as I did ....
Should I o all in on this flop or fold when he raises me fearing a made hand (str8) ?

PokerStars Game #1619575750: Tournament #7512635, Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2005/05/01 - 16:12:02 (ET)
Table '7512635 13' Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: fisher33 (2268 in chips)
Seat 2: Uxbrob (10337 in chips)
Seat 3: kdb1 (1905 in chips)
Seat 4: benovitch (4825 in chips)
Seat 5: smalldog (4562 in chips)
Seat 6: Inkfoot (3440 in chips)
Seat 7: zombie13 (7135 in chips)
Seat 8: do11do (6370 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 9: Dogistar (6225 in chips)
kdb1: posts small blind 75
benovitch: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to benovitch [As] [Qd]
smalldog: folds
Inkfoot: folds
zombie13: folds
do11do: folds
Dogistar: folds
fisher33: folds
Uxbrob: raises 150 to 300
kdb1: folds
benovitch: raises 600 to 900
Uxbrob: calls 600
*** FLOP *** [Qc] [8s] [Tc]
benovitch: bets 1800
Uxbrob: raises 1800 to 3600
benovitch: raises 325 to 3925 and is all-in
Uxbrob: calls 325
*** TURN *** [Qc] [8s] [Tc] [8d]
*** RIVER *** [Qc] [8s] [Tc] [8d] [9d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
benovitch: shows [As Qd] (two pair, Queens and Eights)
Uxbrob: shows [8h 7s] (three of a kind, Eights)
Uxbrob collected 9725 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 9725 | Rake 0
Board [Qc 8s Tc 8d 9d]
Seat 1: fisher33 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Uxbrob (button) showed [8h 7s] and won (9725) with three of a kind, Eights
Seat 3: kdb1 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: benovitch (big blind) showed [As Qd] and lost with two pair, Queens and Eights
Seat 5: smalldog folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Inkfoot folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: zombie13 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: do11do folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Dogistar folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Postby TexasKowboy » Tue May 03, 2005 7:19 am

euri, This is the same thing I am talking about in my back to the drawing board thread.

Yes there is a straight draw on the board but how do you put him on J9 let alone 78 off with all the pre flop raises. I would put him on AA, KK, AK or AJ clubs with the way he is betting. If you play weak and muck because you think they have AA or KK you might as well not play any hands other then AA or KK. So I think you have to play it strong like you did.

I get tired of hearing people say these are the guys you want to play against. Because what happens is say you double up this time. You might even double up next time. But before the MTT is over one of these idiots are going to suck out and break or cripple you. If your only a 60/40 favorite then that means that 4 times out of 10 they are going to suck out on you.

If it's any peace of mind I have been seeing the same thing in the ring games. But at least there I can leave when I double up.
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Postby Dumb Snowman » Tue May 03, 2005 7:32 pm

I think playing it strong like that is fine. Honestly, I probably would have raised more before the flop, really really hoping to just steal the blinds. I don't like playing hands like AQ/AJo in this stage of the tournament, because you normally are very committed after the flop if you raise both preflop and on the flop. And if you get all in, you're probably not gonna be a HUGE favorite.

I prefer playing drawing hands with more opponents around this level, hoping to get into a huge bot where I can triple, maybe even quadriple up.
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Re: out of the tourney

Postby Zarathustra » Wed May 04, 2005 12:17 pm

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Postby poker2006 » Wed May 04, 2005 1:47 pm

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