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Postby Kuso » Sat Sep 10, 2005 7:54 am

I flop the nut flush in EP, so I BTP and get a reraiser. I put this guy on a low, so I wish the twit had just called so we could get more money in the pot. Anyway, the turn pairs the board, and I am at a loss as to what to do. I think about a blocking raise, but if I do that, all the money is going in anyway, so why bother? So the question is whether I should be willing to go to the bitter end for about $4 (8 big bets) of equity if my flush stands?

My instinct is to say I shouldn't call, but these spots confuse me. I fell confident Villian has the low, and he might have eased into a boat for the high. In this case, I think that I shouldn't call, as the potential equity is quite small. But what if this had popped up on the river?

Also, is it valid not to raise from EP in these situations in order to let the lows do the betting and calling before you make your move?

Any and all insights are welcome.


$25 PL Omaha Hi/Lo
1 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 3: AllYaCanEat ( $31.97 )
Seat 7: brian6876 ( $20.34 )
Seat 10: jruttke ( $8.12 )
Seat 6: Hero ( $30.20 )
Seat 1: cardtman ( $25.68 )
Seat 4: CHA26498 ( $0 )
Seat 2: AmourOfGod ( $32.62 )
Seat 9: alfalfa7 ( $17.60 )
Seat 5: PikAs63 ( $22.60 )
Seat 8: Ninerings ( $24.50 )
AmourOfGod posts small blind [$0.10].
AllYaCanEat posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Ac Jc 5s Jh ]
PikAs63 folds.
Hero calls [$0.25].
brian6876 folds.
Ninerings folds.
alfalfa7 folds.
jruttke calls [$0.25].
cardtman calls [$0.25].
AmourOfGod calls [$0.15].
AllYaCanEat checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5c, 7c, 8c ]
AmourOfGod checks.
AllYaCanEat checks.
Hero bets [$1.20].
jruttke folds.
cardtman raises [$4].
AmourOfGod folds.
AllYaCanEat folds.
Hero calls [$2.80].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5h ]
Hero checks.
cardtman bets [$4].
Hero folds.
cardtman does not show cards.
cardtman wins $12.80
jruttke has left the table.
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Postby GooperMC » Sat Sep 10, 2005 8:27 am

Flop:
I am either going to check or bet 1/3 pot depending on the players behind me. This is the classic pull situation, you are not going to be able to push someone off A2 so betting pot is only going to push out the people that you want to call. If the flop was 258 I may try to push and scoop, but nobody folds the nut low so I pull on this board.

Turn:
The pot is $12 and you opponent has $21 left in front of him. I think that this is an check fold if you didn’t have the 5 but since you do have it I may CR here esp if you are playing against a decent or horrible player. You are going to have some fold equity against a decent player and a really bad player may be playing a str8 or other high that you beat. Against the average player I flat call and check to him on the river, but I don't think that check folding is horrible either.

You really put yourself in a sticky situation on the turn by the way that you played it on the flop. You got what you really didn’t want: a big pot, HU, with a 1 way hand. On the turn the pot is now large enough to contend for which makes this hand difficult to play.
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Postby Felonius_Monk » Sat Sep 10, 2005 8:34 am

I'm happy to try to steal the small pot on the flop, although I guess there's a decent chance you'll get called down by a low at this level. Certainly no-one is dropping A2 that has any sort of high equity. However, I like Gooper's play too, keeping the pot small and bringing in some dead low money; that's probably the best move with so many opponents in the pot (I try to steal against 2 or 3 oppos).

Turn depends a bit on your read but I don't think folding is too bad. Calling $4 here and whatever he bets on the river wouldn't be too bad, but then again you are really only fighting over $5 or so for half the pot.
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