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Postby briachek » Wed Dec 28, 2005 1:47 pm

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.50 BB (9 handed)

MP2 ($113.85)
MP3 ($50)
CO ($13.35)
Button ($14.05)
SB ($11.65)
BB ($46.95)
UTG ($97.85)
UTG+1 ($59.10)
Hero ($50)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with [Ah], [3h], [Ac], [4h].
UTG calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.50, MP2 calls $0.50, 3 folds, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($2.50) [Ad], [Ks], [9c] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $2.4, MP2 calls $2.40, SB folds, BB folds, UTG folds.

Turn: ($7.30) [Qc] (2 players)
Hero bets $6.95, MP2 calls $6.95.

River: ($21.20) [Jd] (2 players)
Hero bets $10

opponent seems to be decent, nothing great, nothing real bad. I obviously fold to a raise but do you keep firing?
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Postby briachek » Wed Dec 28, 2005 7:07 pm

but what if he makes a pot bet after i check. he could be bluffing or trying to make it seem like he's bluffing.
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Postby DaHitDogg » Wed Dec 28, 2005 7:56 pm

I'm a newbie so use w/ caution, but I like the blocking bet. If he has the nuts then he's gonna raise and you should have an easy fold. If he has two pair then he has to make a crying call and loses.
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Postby briachek » Thu Dec 29, 2005 11:30 am

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Postby Felonius_Monk » Thu Dec 29, 2005 7:04 pm

Usually my MO is to check on the river as an alternative to making blocking bets in PLO. I am happy to try to snap off bluffs against most players; whereas the blocking bet will force him to fold a busted draw, he might just bet it when you check the river. I reckon your EV is better from calling a $21 bet/bluff than it is from simply preventing him bluffing by putting the $10 out there against MOST players. But that's just my opinion and there are good arguments for both lines.

All I can say is I've had a lot of success playing a nut hand out of position this way. There are a couple of requirements:
1) There must be a couple of draws possible, of which only one has made (i.e. you have top set on a str8/flush draw board, the str8 draw hits on the river so it's possible your opponent might have a busted flush draw).
2) Your opponent is not totally passive, and is ideally quite aggressive, i.e. will often bet a busted draw if you show weakness.

After a while you get quite adept at spotting places to make good "value checks" OOP to facilitate a bluff from your quarry. This hand isn't QUITE ideal simply because it's very easy for him to have actually MADE the hand you're wanting him to bluff-represent (a straight with the T).

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